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#1 Aug 09 2009 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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Finally (mostly) finished moving into my new house and got a chance to play around in some heroics with my warrior ... is it just me or did we gain some DPS as Protection in the new patch? I'm hardly geared out (mostly Naxx 10 / heroic geared) and I found myself able to put out over 2k DPS (barely over to be fair) on several bosses in the heroics I ran today. I haven't been able to break much over 1700 DPS previously ...

Did the buff to Devastate and Armored to the Teeth really make that much of a difference? Has anyone else been taking a look at Prot DPS since the patch?
#2 Aug 09 2009 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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We should have gained a slight dps increase yes.

AttT changes are minor, but some. Devastate changes depends on your rotation... But is, again, some dps gain.

The major change is the amount of block value you might have. All block value gear has doubled in amount, and durations for shield blocks are doubled.

I just transferred my warrior to the server I play on. And have been getting him ready to start raiding again. Out of retirement so to speak. In my SBV set, I previously had 1000 SBV, after patch it's 1200. 200 more damage per SS is pretty good.


We also gain, sh*t tonnes @#%^ing gallons, of rage from avoidance now. I'm feeling a nerf here pretty soon about that. But I could be wrong.


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Clarity and spelling.

Edited, Aug 9th 2009 12:41pm by devioususer
#3 Aug 12 2009 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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Devastate is uh....devastating now. I'm still leveling through northrend and it crits for over 1.5k, and revenge for nearly 3k. That's not much less than overpower and execute respectively in my Arms spec. Add in all the stuns, mobility, easier acess to spell reflect and a ton of defensive cooldowns and i've been completely untouchable in world pvp as prot since the patch.
#4 Aug 12 2009 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
ArtemisEnteri wrote:
Devastate is uh....devastating now. I'm still leveling through northrend and it crits for over 1.5k, and revenge for nearly 3k. That's not much less than overpower and execute respectively in my Arms spec. Add in all the stuns, mobility, easier acess to spell reflect and a ton of defensive cooldowns and i've been completely untouchable in world pvp as prot since the patch.


This is how I was as soon as the major nerf patch hit at the tail end of TBC right before WotLK came out. The ganking I did at 70-80 was glorious. Then again, I leveled as prot wearing 4 piece Season 4 (Season 2 shoulders because I was in PVExile at the time, arenaing with total scrubs) and full epics for every slot (one hand dps sword from Zul'Aman, Zul'Aman shield, epic pvp trinket, etc.).

I've also pushed well over 2k dps since I hit 80. Dunno what to say about all that.
#5 Aug 13 2009 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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1k Concussion Blow -hit- on 300 resilience and 16,000 armor at level 75.

Just sayin'. My Druid is feeling the Prot Warrior "love" at the moment. As soon as I get a grip and fix my UI, I'll respec my Warrior and go nuts.

Edited, Aug 13th 2009 4:37pm by Mazra
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#6 Aug 22 2009 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm calling it, spell reflection is the most satisfying, glee-inducing ability in the game. Moments of reflective glory:

-Snaring a destro lock at range with her own conflagrate

-Hitting a frost mage with frostbolt AND deep freeze cause they would have hit at the same time

-Hammer of justice/repentence right back at you mr. ret

#7 Aug 23 2009 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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funniest spell reflect ive ever heard consisted of a warrior defending LM in AB getting thundered off the hill to his death by a shaman just as he hits spell reflect and a death knight death grips him.

naturally, the death knight was rather suprised when DG reflected on him and pulled him to his doom down the cliff.
#8 Aug 24 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm still a fan of shield slam crits just blasting people out of nowhere. Despite the damage nerf it's taken, I still regularly see crits in the realm of 9-12k on undergeared cloth in BGs. I won't see that in an arena match or PvP against real opponents, but it's pretty fun seeing some clothie get blown from 60% health to dead by my shield.
#9 Sep 23 2009 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good
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Is it possible to spell reflect a Spellsteal?

Because, you know, that would be pretty cool.
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#10 Sep 25 2009 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
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i think so maz. of course the mage has to have a stealable buff (likely), but if you did it right it could be pretty funny. spell reflect a spellsteal to protect your HoF, only to end up with the mage's ice barrier lol.

course, the mage could just spell steal twice in a row, grab the HoF and ice barrier, and youre back at square one. still be funny tho.
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I thought Spellsteal had a cooldown or something...

Seems pretty imbalanced if they can just mass-steal a Druid's heals, for instance.
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#12 Oct 03 2009 at 3:12 AM Rating: Good
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You can reflect spellsteal, it steals a random buff from your opponent. Spellsteal is technically spammable, but it has a massive mana cost and during stuff like barkskin and pain supression priests and druids have 80%+ dispell resist, so it's very unlikely you'd be able to steal those.

edit: I think it might just dispel a buff, rather than steal it actually. Though the idea of a prot warrior running around with ice barrier up is glorious.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2009 9:04pm by ArtemisEnteri
#13 Oct 03 2009 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I need to visit the warrior forums more often, there's some epic **** going on here. And here I was thinking Shadowstep was the most awesome ability in the game.
#14 Oct 03 2009 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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I remember reflecting a Shadow Word: Death crit on a Priest with low health.

To those who don't know, Shadow Word: Death needs to kill the target, otherwise it will deal the same amount of damage to the Priest. His Shadow Word: Death crit was reflected onto himself, but it didn't kill him, so he got the backlash effect from it as well, which did kill him.

Sometimes it amazes me Blizzard actually made those mechanics work.

Also, a close second to most awesome ability is Shockwave. Can really mess up an enemy raid in PvP, especially in Alterac Valley when they're attacking one of the bosses. You run in, use Intimidating Shout on the healers and Shockwave on the DPS/tank. The DPS/tank are now stunned and the healers are running around for a while, almost always causing enough panic to wipe them all since most people get instagibbed on the bosses without heals.

So much fun.

Edited, Oct 4th 2009 4:46am by Mazra
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#15 Oct 04 2009 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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spell reflect, done right, is just so much win. its definetely a "once in a million" kinda situation in that you cant really plan it, but after awhile you get a decent idea of when you should start spell reflecting stuff. i think my best so far was as a prot spec spell reflecting a polymorph, cyclone and fear all at once. that was hilarious.
#16 Oct 04 2009 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Also, a close second to most awesome ability is Shockwave


Shockwave and concussive blow are completely brutal. Revenge is an uncontrolled stun, a random proc so it never shares diminishing returns with those two, only itself. I glyphed spell reflection to have a 4 second cooldown, so now if the caster isn't stunned or silenced it's very likely i'll be able to watch their cast bar and reflect something. I actually have my freshly 80 warrior PvP Arms spec/PvE Prot spec and i tend to pvp more as prot. Partly because arms in lv 80 battlegrounds is extremely painful in green leveling gear.

At least as prot you are completely unkitable and can disrupt annoying healers and casters no end.



Edited, Oct 5th 2009 1:17am by ArtemisEnteri
#17 Oct 09 2009 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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Just had some fun in Alterac Valley with Spell Reflection.

I willingly went after Mages, taunting them to cast spells on poor snared me. Pop Spell Reflection, Charge (breaks snares) and Shield Slam for massive damage. God, I love it.
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