Sucking at PvP, badlyFollow

ShD is the Ultimate BG spec. I have literally 2 shot casters in BG's (arena nto so much), but targets with little to no resil are like butter. Talking 8-10k Ambushes and 6-10k Eviscerates.


Now back to you sucking.

So, you CS>KS... so... Now you have Gouge and Blind at your disposal. All you have to do is watch for the trinket and gouge, or blind a millisecond after. Restealth for profit.

Its all about timing and knowing when someone will trinket. I usually will fail at a Trinket>quick blind 1 time, until I know when the individual I am fighting likes to trinket. Once you know that the guy is trinketing KS as soon as it lands, all you do is hit Kidney, wait a half breath, then blind the ****.

It also helps to have debuffs on target shown, so you can either watch the player(for trinket animation) or debuffs and watch for kidney to disappear then have blind ready.


Rogue PVP right now is faster than it has ever been. Try to work on your reaction times (this is harder to do when you dont exactly know what to do since a half second hesitation here or there can mean a 9k Scourge Strike to the face).

In the first situation, my trink was down. My keybinding setup is horrible for pvp, and I'm looking at switching over to ShD and re-learning pvp (yea...it's that bad). I do minimal Arenas, and most of my pvp is messing around in BG's w/ guildies or looking for world pvp.

So I guess my question would be spec related. This is what I came up with (99% chance of utter failure).

Do you even you use backstab in addition to ambush? Is serrated blades/hemo better? And I guess SS would be main attack if you don't down your target during ShD?

Thanks,
Magnub

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That will be a better BG spec. Cheat Death is a joke and HaT is nice, but you get so little use out of it (if your team is on the other side of map you are playing without 3pts basically).

Anyway.


You basically need to make macros for premed. So, now you shoul d have a stealth bar with Premed/CS, Premed/Ambush, and Premed/garrote.

Most the time, you are gonna open with Garrote or Ambush, then instantly Evis (this is low resil targets, also, glyph of evis is a must). Backstab to finish em


Or, open, ful KS, Backstab into eternity. You also want the 5min Prep deep in Sub if you are mainly Bg'ing. It is so nice.

Mouse isnt your problem.


I have most of my main abilities on the mouse (CS, Mut, KS, Sprint, Evasion, Evis, EA, Gouge). Of course there are some Alt/Shift modifiers in there but still.

Everything else is on QERTFGV and 234. Only use WAD for movement.

^ Listen to that. Overlooke dit.

Trinket the Kidney. Dont listen to anything else dear lord. Trinketing Cheap Shot will work once against someone without downs. After that you are gonna be ****** with a Blind after you trinket. Or a Vanish immune on your blind.

Why would a rogue kidney shot someone with a trinket. If somebodys not trinketed my CS I just stick a 5 point rupture and disarm, pretty much dead after ruptures off. In arena yes maybe, but 1v1 against rogues who think they can win by tunnelvision CS>KS lolstunlock then they must suck.

I'll copy your spec then, haven't had the time to do it (too busy in Uld to focus on pvp). Picked up the mace off Auryia in case maces become fun again.

Have SR Main hand...never thought about dagger/mace ambush spec. Looks like I've got my gameplan for tonight...

Just referencing your original post, attacking a rogue with your trinket on CD and theirs available is likely going to end badly. Unless you are confident you can react to that trinket in half a heartbeat. myteddy says it all the time because it's so true; you NEED to be fast in pvp nowadays as a rogue.

Another random observation i was thinking about earlier: If you're going to play around with garroting another rogue, you need to rupture as well. It's really simple to restealth between ticks. I fought a rogue earlier who opened with garrote and dismantle. They didn't use evasion though, and i dismantled right back. We blinded each other at the exactly same moment (neither party had a trinket, world pvp). Of course i was out right away and could restealth and stunlock at my leisure.

I'm run-of-the-mill mut prep. I tried ShDance but it's really hard. All your burst is based on positional attacks.

Edited, Aug 1st 2009 1:30pm by ArtemisEnteri

I also keep "running through" my target instead of backstabbing after a shadowstep. If you pull it off, the burst is absolutely unparalelled though. Shadowstep-ambush a target at < 35%, it is pure sex.