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I'm a disc spec priest now and it seems that every 10/25 man raid im in my hps is only about 1600. I recently installed grid and that helps bunches of oats, but it seems that most other healers get to 2k healing easily while. Do we as disc priest just have a harder time reaching that mark or am i just failing in raid healing. I know hps is not what i need to look at when in a raid but hell everyone else and their mom do. So in quick tips or addons that might make a disc priest hps climb at bit. Name is horis dethroc server not sure if log out in healing gear.
Disc priests are not specifically designed for raid healing. Raid shielding maybe. Either way, don't expect to beat a holy priest on the hps front, if they know what they're doing you just won't be able to. if you're aiming for highish healing throughput on the raid as a disc priest about the only thing I can think of would be to stack haste gear. Other than that I don't think there's much you can do to boost your ehps.
I like to see my total healing done, but don't even look at hps. I don't even have it enabled on my meter. We are about saving people. Each shield I throw could save someone. Penance may bring them back from the brink. Multiple renews, PoM, PoH, or Devine Hymn may help get multiple people back up. I'm also about conserving mana.
Usually I make a pretty good showing on total healing done. If I don't, I look at why. It usually means we had other healers doing a lot of aoe healing.
If I'm on tank duty, ask me if he died. If it's a long fight, ask if I ran out of mana. Start mouthing off to me about hps, and you may find yourself short a healer.
Usually I make a pretty good showing on total healing done. If I don't, I look at why. It usually means we had other healers doing a lot of aoe healing.
If I'm on tank duty, ask me if he died. If it's a long fight, ask if I ran out of mana. Start mouthing off to me about hps, and you may find yourself short a healer.
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If I'm on tank duty, ask me if he died. If it's a long fight, ask if I ran out of mana. Start mouthing off to me about hps, and you may find yourself short a healer.
We've had the discussion before, but this basically says everything. No matter how crappy you think a healer is, if his targets live to see the end of the fight he's doing a good job. If his healing done is too low, you're raiding with too many healers.
well once again this forum rocks my socks. All wonderful answers that solved my question thanks everyone.
I have healed as discipline for a while and wanted to give holy a go. Switching between Disc and Holy throughout a run with the same gear gives extremely different numbers. I keep the other healers scratching their heads as they try to figure out why I am at the bottom of the meters on one boss and on the top for the next. Funny thing is, I feel more effective as discipline.
Body and Soul is just plain fun. I shield the DK tank on pull and he almost beats the warrior's charge. =D
Body and Soul is just plain fun. I shield the DK tank on pull and he almost beats the warrior's charge. =D
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Funny thing is, I feel more effective as discipline.
This is probably because disc is more single-target orientated and your main heal is a heal that heals someone up in 3 big bursts. You're going to notice healing someone who'se near dead up with three healbombs more than spamming CoH, which I myself see as a free HP5 button that needs to be clicked every 6 seconds.
As usual, Dadanox is my hero.
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Body and Soul is just plain fun. I shield the DK tank on pull and he almost beats the warrior's charge. =D
Try doing it on the kologarn pull, priceless when you send someone off the cliff.
30-40% of a Disc priests heals don't show up on recount
Run wowmeteronline and get impressed
If you can preshield people and toss out PoH when able you will see that you are on par with holy priests. The thing is divine ageis and power word shield don't show in recount.
And guessabsorbed is awful (because it gives you 100% credit no matter what)
That being said, a disc priest brings a lot to a raid outside of pure numbers. The bubbles allows other healers extra time to catch up
Power Infusion on a high dps helps raid dps, ever so slightly
Pain Supression
Inspration (can be kept up on the tank with a higher % than a holy priest raid healing)
Rapture (helps give mana/rage/ruinc power etc back to people)
To me disc priest is kind of like the shadowpriest of TBC. Kind of a niche field :)
Edited, Jul 27th 2009 11:18am by Smoopie
Run wowmeteronline and get impressed
If you can preshield people and toss out PoH when able you will see that you are on par with holy priests. The thing is divine ageis and power word shield don't show in recount.
And guessabsorbed is awful (because it gives you 100% credit no matter what)
That being said, a disc priest brings a lot to a raid outside of pure numbers. The bubbles allows other healers extra time to catch up
Power Infusion on a high dps helps raid dps, ever so slightly
Pain Supression
Inspration (can be kept up on the tank with a higher % than a holy priest raid healing)
Rapture (helps give mana/rage/ruinc power etc back to people)
To me disc priest is kind of like the shadowpriest of TBC. Kind of a niche field :)
Edited, Jul 27th 2009 11:18am by Smoopie
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Try doing it on the kologarn pull, priceless when you send someone off the cliff.
You have no idea of the ideas you just put into my twisted mind.
thegreatmothra wrote:
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Body and Soul is just plain fun. I shield the DK tank on pull and he almost beats the warrior's charge. =D
Try doing it on the kologarn pull, priceless when you send someone off the cliff.
Heh... hehe... hehhehhheheheheheh
I believe someone's gonna have a little accident! =)
If you're using Glyph of Shield (and shame on you if you're not!) you can get a guesstimate of how much you're shielding for. I use the effective healing of the Glyph to help account for overshielding. I know that when I add that back in and count it as healing, my numbers are right there with our top-line healers.
If you’re playing your disc priest correctly, you will always be behind on the healing meters from other healers who are playing correctly.
Which means forget the meters. Discipline is amazing in PVE raids, which is why one of the healers in the world’s first downing of Algalon, among others, was a disc priest. Penance is arguably the most powerful, the most efficient, and nearly the fastest single-target heal in the game. Shield is even faster, is remarkably efficient when used on two targets, and it can be used very effectively on the whole raid in splash damage fights. Divine Aegis means crits aren’t mostly overheal. For multitarget heals, Borrowed Time makes the powerful and efficient Prayer of Healing pretty fast, the set bonus makes Prayer of Mending 20% better, and Divine Hymn macro’d with Inner Focus is one of the best “yikes!†buttons available to a healer.
The meters won’t tell you how awesome you are. So just keep telling yourself. Or heck, go PVP—you’ll get “awesome heals!†whispers all the time.
Which means forget the meters. Discipline is amazing in PVE raids, which is why one of the healers in the world’s first downing of Algalon, among others, was a disc priest. Penance is arguably the most powerful, the most efficient, and nearly the fastest single-target heal in the game. Shield is even faster, is remarkably efficient when used on two targets, and it can be used very effectively on the whole raid in splash damage fights. Divine Aegis means crits aren’t mostly overheal. For multitarget heals, Borrowed Time makes the powerful and efficient Prayer of Healing pretty fast, the set bonus makes Prayer of Mending 20% better, and Divine Hymn macro’d with Inner Focus is one of the best “yikes!†buttons available to a healer.
The meters won’t tell you how awesome you are. So just keep telling yourself. Or heck, go PVP—you’ll get “awesome heals!†whispers all the time.
emmitsvenson wrote:
Or heck, go PVP—you’ll get “awesome heals!†whispers all the time.
Well, okay, but that's kind of like saying "Put on a short skirt and go to a bar - you'll get pick up lines all the time." I could hit someone with a linen bandage in a battleground and get an "awesome heals!" whisper.
Posting smartass comments like this makes me miss my premium smilies.
Edited, Jul 28th 2009 2:07pm by teacake
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"Put on a short skirt and go to a bar - you'll get pick up lines all the time."
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't (although I guess that depends what sort of bar you mean)
teacake wrote:
I could hit someone with a linen bandage in a battleground and get an "awesome heals!" whisper.
Man, you'd think so, wouldn't you? But in my experience, no one who spams my disc priest with "healz haels HEAL MEEE" ever appreciates it when I target them with this macro:
/use Heavy Netherweave Bandage
/s "How's my healing? Call 1-800-LRN2BANDAGE!"
On the other hand, bystanders usually think it's hilarious.
emmitsvenson wrote:
/use Heavy Netherweave Bandage
/s "How's my healing? Call 1-800-LRN2BANDAGE!"
On the other hand, bystanders usually think it's hilarious.
/s "How's my healing? Call 1-800-LRN2BANDAGE!"
On the other hand, bystanders usually think it's hilarious.
LOL!
I have a strict policy against healing anyone who can't spell "heal" or "me."
Another peeve of mine is paladins, shaman, priests, etc. who are DPS specced who blame you when they die but never make any attempt to heal themselves. My own husband does this. I keep telling him that Ret has access to all the spells, but it doesn't seem to sink in.
emmitsvenson wrote:
/s "How's my healing? Call 1-800-LRN2BANDAGE!"
must...not...pick...up...phone
Whew, almost couldn't resist calling.
To OP: Caught your armory, mostly decent stuff. Enchant the ring, do your Hodir dailies, put a buckle on that belt, yadda yadda.
Incidentally, I can't seem to get rid of the parlor sashy thingie out of my disc kit. It's like one of those pieces of dps gear with 60 hit on it. Whenever I start regemming and moving pieces of gear in and out, it seems to be that last puzzle piece that makes it all fit together due to the combimation of stats on it, mainly the mp5.
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Well, okay, but that's kind of like saying "Put on a short skirt and go to a bar - you'll get pick up lines all the time."
Somehow I don't think that'd work well for me >.>
Really, it was just a general sort of analogy. Please don't start posting pics of yourselves in short skirts. ;)
I'm an old lady. I don't even wear skirts, let alone short ones.
I'm an old lady. I don't even wear skirts, let alone short ones.
teacake wrote:
I'm an old lady.
LIES
Hellbanned
idiggory wrote:
Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
Horsemouth wrote:
teacake wrote:
I'm an old lady.
LIES
I stopped raiding because it went too late at night.
I like going to dinner at 4 PM.
I saw Star Wars in the theater the first time it came out.
No, not the one with Yoda, the real Star Wars.
I remember the beige M&M's.
I iz old.
Star Wars was the very first movie I saw in a theater. Ah the memories.
Empire is the best though, which incidentally had Yoda in it.
I'm finding that having 1 Disc priest in the raid is invaluable for all the reasons mentioned. Of course, I've been shuffled into the Holy role (which I don't mind that much) and get to be the zomguberraidhealz guy. I'm at or near the top of the meters every night. I'd gladly give that up to be the regular Disc. priest. They are toooo much fun, and extremely effective despite their "meter modesty".
P.S. - I'm getting Body and Soul asap ;)
Empire is the best though, which incidentally had Yoda in it.
I'm finding that having 1 Disc priest in the raid is invaluable for all the reasons mentioned. Of course, I've been shuffled into the Holy role (which I don't mind that much) and get to be the zomguberraidhealz guy. I'm at or near the top of the meters every night. I'd gladly give that up to be the regular Disc. priest. They are toooo much fun, and extremely effective despite their "meter modesty".
P.S. - I'm getting Body and Soul asap ;)
teacake wrote:
I saw Star Wars in the theater the first time it came out.
No, not the one with Yoda, the real Star Wars.
No, not the one with Yoda, the real Star Wars.
Way OT, but anyhoo-
Had a weird, flashbacky moment there when you talked about seeing Star Wars in the theater. I was ten when it came out. The strange part is that I distinctly remember another movie that was in the previews. I was a bit intrigued, yet somewhat confused by the preview. In my sci-fi state of mind, it had an outer space connection which seemed to fit with the feature, but something didn't quite seem right.
It was almost a decade later when I finally saw the movie from the preview and was blown away when I recalled where I had first come across it. How it had been slotted as a preview for matinee viewing of Star Wars is beyond me. When I saw it at a midnight show at the local indie theater, I enjoyed it almost as much as Star Wars, but for vastly different reasons. The movie...
The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Trylofer wrote:
I was ten when it came out.
This was a fantastic story. Unfortunately, I'm too shallow to fully enjoy its fabulousness over the din of my cackling "Ha ha, you're older than me!"
(I was six.)
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