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#1 Jul 13 2009 at 7:08 AM Rating: Default
Ok seriously WTF?


We're merked by anything + rogue?

I would prefer a response from Mike.. His pvp knowledge enlightens me! :)

(The 1v1 discussion has helped)
#2 Jul 13 2009 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
have you checked out

http://www.arenajunkies.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48

?

I'm not sure that it specifically speaks of ret/mage but I'm sure it is in there somewhere.
#3 Jul 13 2009 at 7:32 AM Rating: Default
Ahh I have not yet.. I will when I leave work... Damn barracude Filter limits me to this forum... Not that i wouldnt have it any other way :)

I'm not sure how much Arena you do Anobix, but... Since someone responded;

Our teams CC is not really a problem... We just have an issue surviving a team that survives our initial burst... I generally use my mirror image at the beginning.. Is that a flaw?
#4 Jul 15 2009 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Rogue teams give you trouble?

Depends who they open on. If they're always opening on you, you should have ice barrier, mana shield and the paladins sacred shield on you. Absorb a fair amount of damage in the inital garrote silence then blink away and start DPS with a pet elemental freeze. Your paladin can also hand of protection you (ie: bop) and you can still cast and DPS through it while being immune to melee damage for 10 seconds (just watch out for priests/shamans who can dispell it off you).

Rets can absolutely rock a rogue in a stun, but with a healer on the rogue's team they'll have to be CC'd. I would CC the healer right away, deep freeze the rogue and pump some ice lances into him.
#5 Jul 15 2009 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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PaladinIRL wrote:
Ahh I have not yet.. I will when I leave work... Damn barracude Filter limits me to this forum... Not that i wouldnt have it any other way :)

I'm not sure how much Arena you do Anobix, but... Since someone responded;

Our teams CC is not really a problem... We just have an issue surviving a team that survives our initial burst... I generally use my mirror image at the beginning.. Is that a flaw?


Also I rarely use mirror because they are retards who break your CC and they have no pet control functions. They just attack whatever the hell they want, whether it's sheeped, blinded, repentanced they don't care and they'll attack it. I only use deep freeze as a ghetto form of feign death (ever fight a hunter and they feign death right as your about to cast a frostbolt? you lose your target for a split second, have to retarget the hunter manually, and the cast fails).

That's all I mirror image for in arena, CC is too sensitive to be broken by stupid pets, they can lose you a game. Your water elemental is also stupid and will constantly try to attack your sheep target without a specific macro or spamming pet control buttons each time you resheep.

Careful with pets.

You say your problem in general is when the enemy team outlasts your initial burst. You will rarely win these games past that point, double DPS is all about the initial burst and getting the fast kill through textbook CC chains and high burst on the non-CC'd target. I won't lie, double DPS is harder to play then anything else. I'm playing my holy pally right now just facerolling to 1850, it's so much easier then playing a mage in PVP. Healers I find pretty easy mode compared to the perfection required to be consistent winning double DPS games.

You have to watch videos, tons of them. Go to warcraftmovies.com, click the arena tab, select mage + paladin and watch at least 4-5 good mage/ret videos. Then watch some mage/mage and mage/rogue videos just for kicks, and maybe some mage/disc priest videos. They will teach you alot.
#6 Jul 16 2009 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
The type of response I had expected from a knowledgable poster. Thank you.
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