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#52 Jul 21 2009 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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I JUST started tanking (hUK, last night, first heroic ever woohoo), but I feel like I have way more trouble with GCDs than I do rage. That is, I can't mash buttons fast enough to dump rage and keep agro on AoE-happy dps. I can't really blame the dps, considering the direction Blizz has gone with AoE threat abilities for tanks and the general amount of threat most tanks can put out, but a swipe or two and a demo roar just wasn't cutting it for me last night. Anyhow, I'm hardly chain-pulling, but most pulls I'm still sitting at 30ish rage from the prior fight.

Couple of questions (keep in mind I've been resto since TBC and as such my good set is definitely not bear-oriented)--

Is FFF Skull - Swipe - Demo - Swipe - Mangle Skull not a good way to start trash fights? I rarely charge unless it's midfight, my healer has agro, and Growl is on c/d. I wonder if maybe I over use Lacerate early in trash pulls -- do you guys ever tab-lacerate or is it all swipe?

Should I be gemming all stam now? I know my hp is low. 28k hp, 27k armor, 35% dodge and most of my gems are agi/stam purple with one or two +24stam exceptions. Maybe I overvalue agi, but between armor, dodge, and crit for SD, agi does kinda make me randy.
#53 Jul 21 2009 at 10:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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You have DPS LW chants. Fix that. Also you have DPS glyphs, fix that. Gemming with the agi/stam ones is fine. Especially at your gear level. Heck it's recommended.

Spec like this but put the 5/5 FA into 3/3 Imp Mangle and BI. You are missing NR which is a good source of rage and dodge. PP will help push dodges/parries off table which will help threat. PI does nothing in bear form. Get full PotP it is a huge tanking boost for both threat and mitigation.

If you want a tank/dps spec use the one Arex has but use Maul, Rip and SR Shred glyphs. For pure tanking use the ones I have. Maul glyph is huge for tanking. Maul is your work horse. For trash in heroics just Maul and Swipe until trash is dead. Tab around to Maul more targets as Maul is insane threat. I really can't stress that enough.

Save Demo for big pulls or if you are taking a lot of damage. Same goes for Barkskin, which should be keybound to an easy to pop location. FR is more of an o sh*t button as it kills your rage but when you pop SI first it can heal for a lot of your regular health.

Pulling with FFF is always a good idea as FFF is one of your highest threat moves and doesn't cost any rage.

Good luck.

edit: changed something after i realized what i said.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2009 2:44am by Horsemouth
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#54 Jul 27 2009 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I had a ret pally ******** me out to battle rez him, healing normal HoL at 77 yesterday. I'd innervated with the boss at 65% and was strapped for mana just keeping the people not so retarded to stand in AoE alive. So I did after some frustration, didn't have the GCD's to heal the tard for a few seconds, finally got him topped off as he was yelling at me while standing in aoe anyways (again..) and he died once more.

I love ret pallies.
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