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Mouseover macros and PVPFollow

#1 Jul 03 2009 at 6:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Since we've talked about mouseover macros so many times in this forum I decided to post this here even though I'm, like, not a priest anymore? In case anyone else needed a little, you know, macro fun! This would be simple stuff for the macro-savvy but who knows, maybe it'll save someone like me a Google.

I've been pretty vocal about how much I love my macros versus Grid or Healbot. And for PVE it's always worked peachy. But I did notice that in PVP, where more frequent and precise movement is required, mousing over can sometimes get in the way of turning/moving fast enough. I don't know if anyone else has this problem too or it's just my inability to walk and chew gum at the same time.

I still wanted the mouseover capability for those times when I need to stand in the back and machine gun fire a bunch of targets, but I also didn't want to have to mouseover when I'm casting instants or on the run a lot between casts. So I added a couple additional arguments to my macros, like so:

#showtooltip Flash of Light
/cast [target=mouseover,exists] Flash of Light; [help, exists] Flash of Light; [target=player] Flash of Light;

This one looks for a mouseover target first. If there is one, it'll cast Flash of Light on them. If there isn't, it'll cast Flash of Light on my current target if they're friendly. If none of those things are true, it'll cast Flash of Light on myself.

Same for offensive spells, use the mouseover if it's there, otherwise just hit the target:

#showtooltip Crusader Strike
/cast [target=mouseover,exists, harm, nodead] Crusader Strike; [exists,harm,nodead] Crusader Strike;

The downside is my friend/enemy macros (such as, cast Renew if the target is friendly, SW:P if they aren't) can exceed the character limit when you add all this other junk, so I ended up streamlining my toolbars so each key is bound to only one spell.

Also: I still call Flash of Light "Flash Heal" all the time.


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Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 10:44pm by teacake
#2 Jul 05 2009 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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Ageed, mouseover can be a little slow in these cases. I don't pvp much myself although I know of people that have even gone to the lenghs of writing 3 flash heal macros for their 3v3 arena matches. Something like this I should imaginge.
/cast [target=raid1] Flash Heal
and
/cast [target=raid2] Flash Heal
and
/cast [target=raid3] Flash Heal

You can add in the respective else clauses to whatever your preferences are but you get the idea. I suppose its nice just to be able to hit something quick in those situations but I don't know I'd get along with it myself.
#3 Jul 05 2009 at 5:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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thegreatmothra wrote:

/cast [target=raid1] Flash Heal
and
/cast [target=raid2] Flash Heal
and
/cast [target=raid3] Flash Heal


I like this idea. It would be simple enough to just load a different Dominos profile for Arena. Probably wouldn't work for me because I really need the one set of bindings/buttons or else I just hit the wrong things out of habit. I can't tell you how long I was playing my Paladin before I stopped hitting my Power Word: Shield key. I don't know how you people who play more than one class at a time do it. I'm a serial monogamist when it comes to WoW.

It has been fantastic since I made this change, how much faster I can move when I'm the one being focused and I can just mash keys to heal myself or hit my target without worrying about where my pointer is. It can still be tough healing in places like AV or Wintergrasp where I have 40 bars to hover over though, if I'm being focused by an enemy at the same time and have to keep moving. I don't see how a healing add-on would help with that though, since they all require clicking? Do other PVP types do this mutliple macro thing Mothra's talking about, or do you have another system?

In any case, with my current spec my total instant heals are: zero. So I have to stop moving to cast anyway. Upside: I can have 2 hunters' pets and a shaman's entire set of ghostie dogs on me all at once and just ignore them and cast right through it. A 25k health healer is a pretty thing. :)



Edited, Jul 5th 2009 9:20pm by teacake
#4 Jul 06 2009 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, I could just squeeze the life out of you, teacake.

I've been thinking about looking up some mouseover macros for my Healadin, but I never got around to it. Now I'm looking at this and there's copypasta all over my desktop (on my computer, of course).

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#5 Jul 06 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mazra wrote:
Oh, I could just squeeze the life out of you, teacake.


I get this a lot.
#6 Jul 14 2009 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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I want a macro to cast dispel on enemy targets. Modifying the Crusader Strike macro you made it would be:
#showtooltip Dispel Magic 
/cast [target=mouseover,exists, harm, nodead] Dispel Magic; [exists,harm,nodead] Dispel Magic;

Would this give me the desired result? If so how do I actually use it? Do I have to hover my mouse over the mob and then activate the macro or do I hold down the macro and then try and get the cursor over the mob?
#7 Jul 14 2009 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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You could do that, but as you say hovering your mouse over enemy targets while dispelling is a pain in the ***. Much better simply to heal using the mouseover macros and dispel your actual target. If you did want to use that particular macro, you would have to mouseover the target and then hit the macro key.
#8 Jul 18 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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HunterJones wrote:
I want a macro to cast dispel on enemy targets. Modifying the Crusader Strike macro you made it would be:
#showtooltip Dispel Magic 
/cast [target=mouseover,exists, harm, nodead] Dispel Magic; [exists,harm,nodead] Dispel Magic;

Would this give me the desired result? If so how do I actually use it? Do I have to hover my mouse over the mob and then activate the macro or do I hold down the macro and then try and get the cursor over the mob?


You hover your mouse over the target first, then hit the macro's key. If you're not hovering over anyone, it'll just cast on your current target instead.

Were it me, I'd actually take out the harm condition:

#showtooltip Dispel Magic
/cast [target=mouseover, exists, nodead] Dispel Magic; [exists, nodead] Dispel Magic;

That way you've got enemy and friendly taken care of with just one key.


Edited, Jul 18th 2009 2:10pm by teacake
#9 Jul 27 2009 at 10:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've been tinkering with an all-in-one button for dispelling in the melee mosh pit, using Mass Dispel on top of the regular Dispel.
Something like-

/use [target=mouseover,exists,nodead] Dispel Magic; Mass Dispel

This way I can get double dispels off on friendlies and mana efficient, normal dispels on non-friendlies. It does take a conscious effort to find an open spot to mouseover for Mass Dispel. This could be remedied by a modifier and Mass Dispel earlier in the macro.

/use [mod:ctrl] Mass Dispel; [target=mouseover,exists,nodead] Dispel Magic; Mass Dispel

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#10 Jul 27 2009 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Trylofer wrote:

/use [target=mouseover,exists,nodead] Dispel Magic; Mass Dispel


So this casts Dispel Magic on a mouseover target if there is one, otherwise it gives you the Mass Dispel wheelie to do with what you wish, right?

I wish there was a way to just cast MD in its radius around a target. I hate placing the wheel and running at the same time. Then again, I also can't be trusted to walk with cutlery.
#11 Jul 27 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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teacake wrote:
Trylofer wrote:

/use [target=mouseover,exists,nodead] Dispel Magic; Mass Dispel


So this casts Dispel Magic on a mouseover target if there is one, otherwise it gives you the Mass Dispel wheelie to do with what you wish, right?

I wish there was a way to just cast MD in its radius around a target. I hate placing the wheel and running at the same time. Then again, I also can't be trusted to walk with cutlery.


Yes, that is the effect of the macro. It doesn't have any selfcast option, though, so you have to mouseover your own frame to dispel yourself. The only places I've used it are in BGs and the DK quarter of Naxx. It's really just a spam tool, like using a cleaver instead of a scalpel... but those might be off-limits to you as well. =D
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