I am 63 and I just respec to arcane, What stats should I focus on? I have mostly SP and crit, is haste INT and spirit more important? Advice?
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:02pm by Benderbrau
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For arcane it is generally sp > haste > crit > int > spirit or similar to that order.
I keep running out of mana, and it doesnt replenish fast enuf. My dps is 400ish where as my frost build is 800+ dps. Am I missing something? I don't have Arcane Blast til next lvl, is that the key to arcane dps?
Edited, Jun 24th 2009 7:33pm by Benderbrau
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:03pm by Benderbrau
Edited, Jun 24th 2009 7:33pm by Benderbrau
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:03pm by Benderbrau
it is quite helpful. What are you using as a rotation? Generaelly an arcane blast -> slow -> arcane barrage (or arcane blast -> arcane barrage) should work fine.
(at least the next level). Using missile barrage on proc.
(at least the next level). Using missile barrage on proc.
ok WOW Arcane Blast pwns, just hit 64 and dummy tested lvl 60 dummy.
Highest crit: 4950
DPS: 1210.01
This is with my frost crit/sp gear I am impressed with Arcane very cool my lvl!
on another note I wasn't impressed with haste on hands and back I like the penetration and sp enchants better.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 4:30am by Benderbrau
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:03pm by Benderbrau
Highest crit: 4950
DPS: 1210.01
This is with my frost crit/sp gear I am impressed with Arcane very cool my lvl!
on another note I wasn't impressed with haste on hands and back I like the penetration and sp enchants better.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 4:30am by Benderbrau
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:03pm by Benderbrau
Penetration is worthless in pve
I was told you would want about 15 SPen for raid bosses to remove the level difference resistances?
Not sure.
Either way to the OP, use SP chant over haste, but not Spell Pen. Also make sure you are using Mage Armor for leveling. NEVER use it in raid/instance but when PvE, 100% MP5 is sweet. Less resting > spike damage.
Not sure.
Either way to the OP, use SP chant over haste, but not Spell Pen. Also make sure you are using Mage Armor for leveling. NEVER use it in raid/instance but when PvE, 100% MP5 is sweet. Less resting > spike damage.
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I was told you would want about 15 SPen for raid bosses to remove the level difference resistances?
That's been something I have wondered about ever since we hit Ulduar. Seeing partial resists I have been curious to try it. I have no idea where I would get it from on my current gear without gemming or using a PvP peice but I would love to see some numbers for this.
Edit: NM found my answer at EJ. Spen can’t overcome the built in level difference resist on bosses of ~5-6%. It basically does nothing unless a boss has a specific resist to say fire or frost like Supremus and Winterchill used to.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:52pm by Shojindo
*Post delay issue.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 3:46pm by Shojindo
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 3:46pm by Shojindo
Master Shojindo wrote:
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I was told you would want about 15 SPen for raid bosses to remove the level difference resistances?
That's been something I have wondered about ever since we hit Ulduar. Seeing partial resists I have been curious to try it. I have no idea where I would get it from on my current gear without gemming or using a PvP peice but I would love to see some numbers for this.
Edit: NM found my answer at EJ. Spen can’t overcome the built in level difference resist on bosses of ~5-6%. It basically does nothing unless a boss has a specific resist to say fire or frost like Supremus and Winterchill used to.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 1:52pm by Shojindo
Beat me to posting it, I got super busy at work. So yeah ^^. Basically spellpen is really only useful for when bosses had base-resistances that lead to large partial resistances (and pvp). Fortunately, Blizzard said they are doing away with that (I still occasionally get some on Ignis and such, but not too bad)
Huge thanks, gonna drop that 20 Spell Pen gem for another 19SP then!
Just wanted to add this in.
Arcane is AWFUL on General Vezax. MP lasts ~1min, then you're worthless for 80% of fight. BLARG
Arcane is AWFUL on General Vezax. MP lasts ~1min, then you're worthless for 80% of fight. BLARG
derp, you have 0 sources of mana regeneration. I respecced for a very mana conservative frost spec. tha or frostfire .
Yeah I am speccing Fire tonight lol.
Can I just spam Arcane Barrage and Arcane Power or is that unacceptable? I saw numbers like this:
Highest crit: 5923
Highest DPS: 1535 (50 rounds of mana cycle)
This is at level 65 and changed a few gears today.
Highest crit: 5923
Highest DPS: 1535 (50 rounds of mana cycle)
This is at level 65 and changed a few gears today.
Arcane power has around a 2 minute cooldown. You should probably be throwing arcane blasts in there and once you get the missile barrage talent use arcane missiles when it procs.
Bender, you've chosen a few talents which will lower your dps by a fair amount and not provide much utility. Arcane fortitude and improved blink are generally considered pvp talents. While they might be sorta useful for leveling, you really wouldn't need them if you put a point in slow. You get a 12% damage boost from your main arcane spells on targets that are slowed (or are affected by any other snares/slowing effects) when you take "Torment the weak". It's a must have for arcane mages.
For quest grinding at 65 I'd go with somethin like this. I omitted arcane subtlety but you could pick it up if you're doing a lot of instances and drop the points in arcane stability. Missile Barrage is a strong talent as well and you should cap that out. Your point(s) in the frost tree are essentially useless until you get Icy veins unless you need the hit from precision, which you most often shouldn't while leveling if you're choosing your targets sensibly.
For quest grinding at 65 I'd go with somethin like this. I omitted arcane subtlety but you could pick it up if you're doing a lot of instances and drop the points in arcane stability. Missile Barrage is a strong talent as well and you should cap that out. Your point(s) in the frost tree are essentially useless until you get Icy veins unless you need the hit from precision, which you most often shouldn't while leveling if you're choosing your targets sensibly.
Anobix the Brilliant wrote:
Penetration is worthless in pve
At the moment it definitely is. There's nothing to say that they won't add in another boss like Supremus in the future, where penetration is kinda nice if you don't have a lock putting up CoE. Granted, then it'd only be useful for that one boss, and with dual specs, odds are that you can switch to a different spec instead of needing to gear for resistance.
Can you recommend a good arcane dps spec? Maybe a link with talents shown, People tell me 51/*/* but I still have to guess the talents.
Edited, Jun 28th 2009 3:04am by Benderbrau
Edited, Jun 28th 2009 3:04am by Benderbrau
should check out the sticky at the top, i have an entire thread on it.
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