I was wondering how close people get to the theoretical dps on a spreadsheet versus what they pull in a boss encounter.
For myself, I pulled 5.9k on Kologarn and 5.7k on Ignis last night in 25 man Ulduar while the spreadsheet says my dps should be 6.4k. Are the numbers that I am pulling reasonable compared to the spreadsheet or do I need to refine my rotations and movement more. Also, I am popping haste pots whenever heroism is dropped.
I am a mutilate rogue and below is a link to my armory if you would like to see (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azuremyst&n=Ballour).
Thanks for pointers and help.
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Spreadsheet is only ever going to give you information in the most optimal of settings. You may find yourself very close in a tank and spank fight like Patchwerk, but then way off on Grobbulus. Yes, you are capable of pulling 6.4K, but did you let SnD drop once? Did you lose HFB at some point? Were you energy starved because you missed some hits and didn't get some filler energy from FA? All of these go into affect in real time dps, and the spreadsheet is merely a calculation.
Personally I don't use a spreadsheet as a number I put out there to justify bringing me, its more of a way to tell which talent point is more beneficial, or what item is an upgrade if the two seem very close. Calculations are precise and we all know that humans are not capable of being perfect 100% of the time.
Edited, Jun 11th 2009 3:46pm by AtrophyGFour
Personally I don't use a spreadsheet as a number I put out there to justify bringing me, its more of a way to tell which talent point is more beneficial, or what item is an upgrade if the two seem very close. Calculations are precise and we all know that humans are not capable of being perfect 100% of the time.
Edited, Jun 11th 2009 3:46pm by AtrophyGFour
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Do you happen to have a link or location as to where I could pull that spreadsheet from?
I am a newly 80 Rogue coming back to the game and I would really love some tools to help me up my DPS. Recount is telling me 2K DPS unbuffed on an 80 dummy in Stormwind but I don't how how that would fall on a useful Rogue's scale.
Edited, Jun 11th 2009 4:11pm by healnsing
I am a newly 80 Rogue coming back to the game and I would really love some tools to help me up my DPS. Recount is telling me 2K DPS unbuffed on an 80 dummy in Stormwind but I don't how how that would fall on a useful Rogue's scale.
Edited, Jun 11th 2009 4:11pm by healnsing
Like Athrophy said the spreadsheet assumes you are standing still, fully raid buffed, and the target is fully debuffed using a perfect rotation and not letting anything drop. In a raid situation however this isn't going to be the case. Also as far as I know Speed Pots and Heroism don't stack too well together because of hastes diminishing returns, it might be an idea to use them seperately.
Edited, Jun 12th 2009 4:32am by Jepetto
Edited, Jun 12th 2009 4:32am by Jepetto
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Also as far as I know Speed Pots and Heroism don't stack too well together because of hastes diminishing returns, it might be an idea to use them seperately.
While its not a bad idea to save speed pot for a burn phase(especially if you're mut spec), provided hero is being used for a different burn phase, otherwise its always best to use speed pot with hero for maximum effectiveness. There are no DR on haste for melee. In general you want to stack dps cds. The only one that doesn't really apply is AR when combat specced as blade flurry+hero+speed pot = insane energy regen which can lead to energy capping when combined with AR and energy capping is always a dps loss.
For my spec/setup - I've got a macro to blow my trink (sphere of RDB, I know it sucks), my orc racial (inc AP) and cold blood. Pair that with a speed pot and a quick vanish, and it's as close as I can get to AR. Minus the speed pot for fantastic results on FoK pulls :)
Mergere wrote:
For myself, I pulled 5.9k on Kologarn and 5.7k on Ignis last night in 25 man Ulduar while the spreadsheet says my dps should be 6.4k. Are the numbers that I am pulling reasonable compared to the spreadsheet or do I need to refine my rotations and movement more. Also, I am popping haste pots whenever heroism is dropped.
As it was mentioned, you should stack haste with heroism.
My spreadsheet DPS is 6400 (combat), and the best result I had on Ignis25 was 5930. So I guess we are in a similar situation.
I usually blame raid buffs for the difference. You can check WWS reports and you will see that many buffs don't have 100% coverage. Looking at my last Ignis I see e.g. only 56% Mangle uptime.
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Looking at my last Ignis I see e.g. only 56% Mangle uptime.
Unless WWS accounts for overlapping buffs as well, that may be due to an Arms Warrior applying Trauma. Same 'buff' but different name and overwrites its counterpart.
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