0/41/30 build helpFollow

I have just recently dusted off my Warlock Manchetick. I've been doing a fair bit of research on different specs and i'm thinking of testing out 0/41/30 as it is laid out by Fallenman in the Warlock's Den:

Pet = Felguard
Glyphs
-Incinerate
-Lifetap
-Felguard

Rotation Prioritization
Immolate, Curse of Agony, Corruption, Incinerate. *

*You will use Soulfire whenever decimation is up once the boss goes below 30%. If you can get far enough away to use 1:1 weaving then do so, but don't sacrifice a greater buff (e.g. Hodir lightwell buff) to do so. It's only about 150dps loss to do 2:1 weaving.

I do however have some questions. For instance, why would I want to take Shadowburn if it's not part of my rotation? Also, as a raider, do I really need Fel Domination and Master Summoner?

So I was thinking of doing something along these lines: My Idea

My thinking is that it would allow me to rock either the imp or the felguard depending on the situation I'm in. My rotation would pretty much be Corr, CoA, Imm, Incinerate repeatedly while keeping debuffs up until below 30% and then 2:1 with Soulfire.

I would appreciate any feedback you might be able to provide. Oh...and I know I'm not lvl 80 yet...I'm planning ahead.

Thanks in advance!

I first want to ask if anyone actually uses Decimation, and has tested it against similar talent specializations without it to see if the DPS is any better? Soul Fire has always been a crappy spell, and I never use it or know anyone that seriously does.


I havent tried Shadow Burn yet, but it looks like one of those talents where you have to choose to dump a point in order to move deeper into that tree, unless you PVP, in which case it looks really cool.
I have not used Master Summoner since before I was 70. It's a waste of points if you are not in a situation where you are constantly needing to replace a minion (like PVP). Summoning a new minion during a boss fight is uncommon, and I have never felt justified in moving two talents points to make that happen a little more faster. Fel Domination should be sufficient, unless really do not care where you dump those two talents-- I put them in Improved Health Funnel, but some might also choose Improved Healthstone instead.

you DON'T use shadowburn. it's just a filler talent. it's taken 'cos there's nothing else worthwhile to take.. shadowburn always has been, and always will be a pvp/finisher ability.. it has no place in a dps rotation EVER.

about decimation.. it's one of the most powerful dps increasing talents in the game, soulfire is the hardest hitting ability in the game and this talent makes it worthwhile to cast in raids, achieving a 1:1 SF/inc weaving will massively increase your dps and dmg done come 35%.... BUT the 0/41/30 spec isn't currently the top dps spec in raids... that title goes to 0/13/55(+3), which does INSANE damage in all scenarios (check out my signature, Taoquitok, to look at the spec/glyphs etc...)

the 0/41/30 spec is a fun spec to play. admittedly it's a bit boring before 35%, but after that it gets fun, and challenging 'cos the dmg output varies alot depending on how well you time your decimate weaving and on where in the cycle you decide to renew dots.. to put it simply though, you should ALWAYS renew dots after casting soulfire, that way you only have to cast 1 incinerate before your next soulfire to get back into the 1:1 rotation.

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