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#1 Jun 03 2009 at 3:27 AM Rating: Default
what does strangulate do?
#2 Jun 03 2009 at 3:42 AM Rating: Good
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I assume you looked at the tool tip but just in case:

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Strangulates an enemy, silencing them for 5 seconds.


Since I am assuming you looked at what it says it does, I'm guessing you are wondering what "silencing" does. I basically just stops someone from using magic for 5 seconds. I basically use it as an interrupt. If I see someone casting a nice big heal, or pyroblast or whatever, then this ability makes them stop and they can't do it again for 5 seconds.

#3 Jun 03 2009 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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Also, you will find "Silence" has the same effect in 99% of RPGs.

Your other silence as a DK is Mind Freeze. It isn't as good as Strangulate, but the two can lock out a healer for almost 14 seconds non stop if you use them correctly.

Mind Freeze = 4 second lockout.
Then use Strangulate = 5 seconds.

So, you Mind Freeze their first heal. The try again in 4 or 5 seconds. Wait until it is near the end of its cast time and use Strangulate. That's another 5 seconds of them not being able to heal. Then Mind Freeze again for 4 more seconds.^^
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#4 Jun 03 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I assume you looked at the tool tip but just in case:

You fail at assumptions! =)


Side note: It's important to remember Strangulate is a ranged interrupt and Mind Freeze isn't. Also most raid bosses will ignore silence effects even if the interrupt function works.
#5 Jun 03 2009 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Mahnovets wrote:
what does strangulate do?


/sigh

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47476

http://www.wowwiki.com/Strangulate

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=51131

Seriously. Google. 10 seconds. Try it. Smiley: disappointed

#6 Jun 03 2009 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
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Why did you even post that. Seriously.

In other news, your hit rating is low, some of your gearing choices are questionable (nice chest), and your attitude is meh.

Also, Mao couldn't have done it without Xiou (see left)
#7 Jun 03 2009 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
Troll?
#8 Jun 03 2009 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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TherionSaysWhat, Assassin Reject wrote:
Why did you even post that. Seriously.

In other news, your hit rating is low, some of your gearing choices are questionable (nice chest), and your attitude is meh.

Also, Mao couldn't have done it without Xiou (see left)


Insensitive probably. Too many folks not attempting to understand/research stuff before asking such questions.

Thank you for the critique of my gear, (even though sarcastic) I am working on that as I can. Not much time for Heroics/Raids in my current situation, and I could craft that chest piece.

(My attitude is usually very helpful and cheerful; I apologize that you have seen my darker side)

Even though I might have been "mean"; I did provide all of the links the OP would need to find out much information regarding his question. I will endeavor to more polite with my responses to questions.

And, agreed on Xiou; I liked the quote.

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#9 Jun 03 2009 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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This is a slightly dumb question but...

I know that one of the uses of strangulate when tanking is to silence the caster so they are forced to run into your melee range, where you have collected all of the other melee trash and so can keep all the threat.

What spell do you use to "silence" the mob equivalent of a hunter? I was thinking to strangulate the caster and death grip the hunter, but was wondering if there were any other strategies for this situation.

(I'm kinda thinking of the opening mobs of HoL, there is a collection of melee/casters/hunters but looking for a general answer).
#10 Jun 03 2009 at 5:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I try to LOS most pulls if they have range (caster or physical).

If LOS is unavailable, then yes, I tend to deathgrip the physical ranged mobs and strangle the caster mobs.

LOS is more useful than blowing GCD's and longer CD's that could more specifically used on heals or ae's.

If you have 3+ ranged mobs, I throw a death and decay on the ones that I can't force to attack me, and I hope to pull the entire group to them/it...



I'm rather limited on my DK tanking experience, but I've extensively tanked on my warrior. And much of the way tanking works is universal. Many warrior tricks will work for DK's when interacting with mob mechanics and not class mechanics.
#11 Jun 03 2009 at 6:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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What spell do you use to "silence" the mob equivalent of a hunter? I was thinking to strangulate the caster and death grip the hunter, but was wondering if there were any other strategies for this situation.


If you can't LoS them, there's always Death Grip.

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Dammit... I just skimmed the above post. >.< Ignore me for not offering new info.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 10:17pm by idiggory
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#12 Jun 04 2009 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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what does strangulate do?


It makes noobs ask stupid questions that waste the time of people in the forum, and it makes me come and make fun of said noob. You, sir, have lost your interweb privileges for a month, now go away.
#13 Jun 05 2009 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
It doesn't waste your time. If it is a stupid question, don't bother anwsering the questions.
#14 Jun 05 2009 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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It doesn't waste your time. If it is a stupid question, don't bother anwsering the questions.


I'm not gonna bother flaming you (I probably would on another day, but I don't have the energy today).

But, to be fair, you DID waste people's time. The title of this thread was not clear. It could have been anything from an in-depth analysis of Strangulate, it could have been a news post about upcoming Strangulate changes or it could have been a funny story about a story involving the ability at its core.

But, instead, people got a question that was kinda useless and likely didn't contain any info in responses that would help 99% of DKs.

I'm not blaming you (right now at least). I'm just telling you that people on these forums are more than happy to help, as long as you put in some actual effort. Your question could have been searched on any engine, and even more easily found on something like WoWHead. Or, hell, here on Allah.

When a simple google/WoWHead search is all it takes to answer a question, people get pissy and irritated. Why? Because we aren't being asked for help, support or anything intellectual. Instead, we are being asked to act as search engines.

And we can never do that as well as google, so cut out the middle man.
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#15 Jun 05 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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#16 Jun 06 2009 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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idiggory wrote:
But, to be fair, you DID waste people's time. The title of this thread was not clear. It could have been anything from an in-depth analysis of Strangulate, it could have been a news post about upcoming Strangulate changes or it could have been a funny story about a story involving the ability at its core.


Psst, idiggory, Shadowflage didn't create this thread...

And yes, while the answer to the question is seemingly obvious to anyone with the IQ of half a sack of bricks, you'd be surprised what some people don't know about this game. You'd also be surprised to know that the game receives new subscribers constantly (omgosh, so the jump from 6 million to 11.5 million subscribers wasn't multiboxers?).

While indeed you could find the tooltip and explanation to the Death Knight ability called Strangulate, I believe the OP is asking what the silencing effect of Strangulate means. While the tooltip for the ability says 'Strangulates an enemy, silencing them for 5 sec.' it doesn't mention what "silencing" means. For someone who has just started playing and has no previous experience with these types of games, a "silence" spell might seem strange. Does it prevent people from saying anything?

Indeed, since apparently no incantations are uttered while casting spells in World of Warcraft, it would seem odd that a silencing effect would prevent someone from casting a spell.

So, yeah, the question is Durr Factor 12 to anyone with World of Warcraft experience, but looking at it with newbie eyes, I'd say it's quite valid. And as mentioned above, if you think it's a stupid question, don't answer it. The amount of time spent on flaming the guy could've just as easily been spent on typing "It prevents them from casting spells." In fact, I think that would take less of your precious time.
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#17 Jun 07 2009 at 4:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Mazra:

If that were the case, then maybe the OP could have put in the time to make more than a four-word OP. Yes, it's possible that he didn't understand what 'silence' meant; but he could have put in the time and courtesy to make that clear, instead of appearing to trivialize everyone else's time.
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Majivo wrote:
Mazra:

If that were the case, then maybe the OP could have put in the time to make more than a four-word OP. Yes, it's possible that he didn't understand what 'silence' meant; but he could have put in the time and courtesy to make that clear, instead of appearing to trivialize everyone else's time.


Ah yes, the 'go read it somewhere' argument.

Is this still a forum, I wonder? Or do we just tell people to go read existing material nowadays? Do you think anyone has accomplished anything by Dilbrt being rude to the guy and idiggory flaming the wrong guy? Really? Because that would surely be a first.

Granted, the question was answered by helpful posters within the first few posts, but Dilbrt's comment was completely unnecessary and idiggory's flame completely missed the point. How can a question be useless? The point of a question is to provoke an answer which might or might not be useful. The question, however, cannot be useless. It can be silly, pointless or dumb, but not useless.

And as someone mentioned before, if you think a question is stupid, nothing prevents you from ignoring it.
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#19 Jun 08 2009 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
Majivo wrote:
Mazra:

If that were the case, then maybe the OP could have put in the time to make more than a four-word OP. Yes, it's possible that he didn't understand what 'silence' meant; but he could have put in the time and courtesy to make that clear, instead of appearing to trivialize everyone else's time.


Ah yes, the 'go read it somewhere' argument.

Not at all. Did you even read what I wrote? I'm simply saying that posters should make clear what they don't understand in their question; or if they don't understand the entire premise, state that so we at least know they put in a modicum of effort. Yes, this is still a forum. Are you telling me you'd be happy playing lapdog to anyone too lazy to google all day long? To expect that we should sacrifice any appearance of having standards for posting quality here is just ridiculous. Nobody wants to help someone who refuses to help themselves.
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Majivo wrote:
Mazra wrote:
Majivo wrote:
Mazra:

If that were the case, then maybe the OP could have put in the time to make more than a four-word OP. Yes, it's possible that he didn't understand what 'silence' meant; but he could have put in the time and courtesy to make that clear, instead of appearing to trivialize everyone else's time.


Ah yes, the 'go read it somewhere' argument.

Not at all. Did you even read what I wrote? I'm simply saying that posters should make clear what they don't understand in their question; or if they don't understand the entire premise, state that so we at least know they put in a modicum of effort. Yes, this is still a forum. Are you telling me you'd be happy playing lapdog to anyone too lazy to google all day long? To expect that we should sacrifice any appearance of having standards for posting quality here is just ridiculous. Nobody wants to help someone who refuses to help themselves.


Yeah, sorry, the first sentence was a reply I came up with while looking at another post and it makes no sense considering I quoted you, durr. Smiley: drunk

I did read what you wrote, I even read it a couple of times to be sure. And I'm sorry if I came off as a bit offensive, that was not my intention. I don't think we should play lapdogs, but I don't think we should decide which questions are allowed and which aren't. As Allakhazam picks up in popularity, we'll see an increasingly large number of posters here who are newbies or lurkers in need of an answer to a simple question. Believe me, I've been in the situation where I thought I'd searched the internet thin without luck before I hesitantly posted my question on a forum, hoping it wouldn't come off as completely silly. Most of the time it turns out the question is quite silly and the answer quite obvious when you look at it afterwards. However, at the time, it didn't seem obvious to me.

Thankfully, I've only ever received patience and understanding from the 'veterans' when doing this. I can only imagine how I'd feel if the first response from a more seasoned poster was 'Go read the FAQ, noob. You're wasting our time,' or 'Google. Try it.'

I'm all for helping people help themselves, but when some people fly off a tangent with insults, there's a little voice in the back of my head that screams 'ONOUDITTEN!' We're all here to receive help or dish out of it ourselves and it's all voluntary. It's not like we're being forced to do it. If we get tired of it, we can just leave. Which is why there's no reason, whatsoever, to be rude. Unless it's someone being rude to begin with, or advertising powerleveling, etc. Those are kill at will.

Maybe I'm just a hippie, but I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt.

Edited, Jun 9th 2009 11:01am by Mazra
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