I have dual spec now (combat for AOE and Mut for single target.)
I have now 3 trinkets and am not sure which way to go.
I have:
Loatheb's Shadow
Mirror of Truth
Darkmoon Card: Death
I am leaning toward Mirror and Darkmoon as I am stacking haste and crit like a fiend (40% crit)and have almost 450 HR - dual wield (daggers.)
I figure with the number of swings I have and the amount of criting I do...they should proc quite often. I believe the internal CD for Death is 45 seconds...so it should proc almost 3x as often than CD of Loatheb's Shadow (2 min.) I am not sure of the CD on Mirror. I am also not sure if Mirror and Death share a global CD or not.
Just looking for some suggestions. Help.... :)
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I personally HATE use trinkets, and the Darkmoon Card is sweet, but I am not 100% on which is best for you. That is a LOT of AP though.
It's very close, but the Darkmoon Card is probably better for you than Loatheb's.
Mirror of Truth is easily better than both of them.
Mirror of Truth is easily better than both of them.
The god of rogues has blessed us with something called a spreadsheet.
Use it, and do not be foolish.
Use it, and do not be foolish.
Moo didn't really flame you, he just sugessted using the spreadsheet. It can be found on elitistjerks.com. It's fairly simple, even though I don't like using it.
Mirror and death are the way to go, each has a 45 second CD. Even if they aren't shared, you still would have a 30 second buffer to proc again before Loetheb.
Mirror and death are the way to go, each has a 45 second CD. Even if they aren't shared, you still would have a 30 second buffer to proc again before Loetheb.
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To GodofMoo:
I am new to this site and was wanting a response from those who "use or have used" these items to get a feel from the players perspective. I do not look at just "raw numbers." If you tie yourself to spreadsheets and calculations and do not take into account the experiences of those around you, you are truly lost.
So, you can be arrogant and spout off flames without offering a point of view and look stupid and foolish, you can show "true intelligence" and just keep your mouth shut if you don't know, or you can actually try and help a person who came here just wanting an "opinion" on what others thought about the items and a possible combo of same.
To the others who actually offered their opinion, I greatly appreciate your input. I still would like additional input as I cannot get my card until June 8 (next: Darkmoon Faire and did not realize it at the time of the 1st post) and want to start thinking about the +/-(s) based on the player's perspective of the items we are discussing.
Thanks,
I am new to this site and was wanting a response from those who "use or have used" these items to get a feel from the players perspective. I do not look at just "raw numbers." If you tie yourself to spreadsheets and calculations and do not take into account the experiences of those around you, you are truly lost.
So, you can be arrogant and spout off flames without offering a point of view and look stupid and foolish, you can show "true intelligence" and just keep your mouth shut if you don't know, or you can actually try and help a person who came here just wanting an "opinion" on what others thought about the items and a possible combo of same.
To the others who actually offered their opinion, I greatly appreciate your input. I still would like additional input as I cannot get my card until June 8 (next: Darkmoon Faire and did not realize it at the time of the 1st post) and want to start thinking about the +/-(s) based on the player's perspective of the items we are discussing.
Thanks,
First of all, that wasn't a flame. If it was a flame I would have insulted you a lot worse than calling you foolish.
Second of all, I did offer a point of view...the point of view that recommends doing some of your own damn research before asking for help. If you had come in saying, "I checked the spread sheet and it showed that X and Y was better than X and Z, but I'm not sure if it really is because Y is a Use trinket. Your thoughts?" than you would have looked a lot less lazy.
Third of all, the math is ALWAYS correct. You just have to know how to use the math, and know how you yourself function. In a fight as represented by the spreadsheet, X and Y will always be better than X and Z for example. However maybe you as a player don't remember to hit the CD every time. That's a factor(one could even consider it a variable of the math) you have to include and can change the outcome.
Fourth of all,
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I figure with the number of swings I have and the amount of criting I do...they should proc quite often. I believe the internal CD for Death is 45 seconds...so it should proc almost 3x as often than CD of Loatheb's Shadow (2 min.) I am not sure of the CD on Mirror. I am also not sure if Mirror and Death share a global CD or not.
This is called napkin math, its a good idea to use. But, we have these things called AEP...which take into account everything you said and indicate which one is better. No, its not absolute, but it can give you a very good idea about it.
Fifth of all, I do take in the knowledge and experience of those around me. I've learned 75% of my rogue knowledge from people on these boards, and the other 25% from personal experience. Guess what one of the biggest things I learned was? USE THE ******* SPREADSHEET.
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So, you can be arrogant and spout off flames without acknowledging someone's point of view and look stupid and foolish, or you can show "true intelligence" and just keep your mouth shut if you don't know
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(makes an *** out of U and ME.)
I'm sorry. That's the most stupid thing I've ever seen, but it does offer a bit of a chuckle for at least a second. Carry on.
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