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Source.

Resilience triumphs yet again! Meh.

Meh, the funny thing about the constant warlock nerfing is that I still don't feel it.

Immolate and UA are self exclusive but I still think the damage is good. Sure it's a loss but my lock is new and I wasn't there to do both spells, so I can't feel a loss, and when I play my lock it works nicely as is.

Fear nerf seemed like a low blow to me, but then I went to BG's and kept abusing fear, I'm almost thinking the fear nerf may be bugged because I've been able to do much more than 10% damage to players in BGs with fear not breaking.

If anything I felt a bit of a blow when demonic sacrifice was "improved" because if your demon has less HP than that you don't get a bubble, and now it has a 1-min c/d. But it's not so bad, it's easier to use than before and in bgs I don't need to keep summoning voids over and over to have more sacs, the cooldown hurts a bit, but there's convenience in keeping the void alive so the trade-off isn't bad.

This seems like a big nerf and all but... are you suuuure it will effectively change the way you play?

yeah, realised that a million years ago... but to quote loads of other locks and myself... "blizzard can't go 1 patch without nerfing locks"

the only REAL benefit imo of CB in pvp was that it worked through % damage reduction abilities... changing that is just gonna **** up destro pvp again...

no

yo're not taking talents into account properly...

I only glanced at the talents, but don't all the ones that boost SB more-or-less boost CB by the same amount?

The only one actually included in the numbers I posted was the one that boosts SB's SP coefficient.

I just took the coefficients from WoWWiki. All the other data is straight off the default tooltips.

How do they compare after the talents?

Got it. Well, that's what one would hope from a 51 point talent...

Then again, Vigor used to be a rogue end-tier one, so Blizz doesn't always take this to heart.

no you don't. read the ability. meta-form is just a 20% increase in damage delt, when fully talented you can equate the meta form to being roughly a 7% increase in your damage across an entire fight.. now you can go it if you want but it's a crap dps spec to go. 0/13/55(+3) and 53/0/18 are the top dps specs currently, with 0/41/30 coming up a close 3rd

well actually back then it was fine like that, the ability was VERY over-powered, it healed you to full and stopped you from using spells other than a few special ones but it made your melee attacks stupidly powerful so effectively it turned you into an over-powered warrior for 30 seconds

look on the bright side; destro locks are the only caster that can reliably kill a DK under AMS or a rogue using CloS. that in itself has won a number of arena games for me.

plus its just awesome in a ********** you rogue/dk!" kind of way. shows them that maybe they arent as high and mighty as they thought they were.

Yeah, right, it's a PvP nerf, BUT...how much is going to affect PvE? If at all.