Up and coming tanking questionFollow

Its only a taunt so doesnt need to be part of the Rotation. I only use it when something actually needs taunted, patrol aggros the healer, dps pull threat etc. Or when swapping tanks in raids.

OP : Hand of reckoning is not part of your rotation, use it to taunt mobs in the first place and in the event of some dps pulling aggro or the such.

As for the expertise question, I might be the worse tank out there, but I've never, ever, payed attention to that stat, and I've tanked t4, t5, t7 and now doing t8.

Thank you Mahlerite, the tank who told me this was a warrior so that is probably why he felt a higher expertise was necessary.

Devil's advocate stuff here, but wasn't parry hasting exposed as a myth? I took expertise where I could get it, but mainly stuck to the stuff that was already on the gear I wanted for other stats coupled with the glyph and talents. I look at expertise (and hit, for that matter) as threat stats, not mitigation (expertise to avoid parry hasting would be using it as a mitigation stat).

I'd be interested to see what the dedicated min-maxers have to say on it these days, but it really comes down to percentages. For heroics and normal raid encounters, it's definitely not necessary to be expertise capped. I would think some hard mode encounters where a hasted extra physical hit on a tank could cause problems might be the only situation where it could be argued that being expertise capped might be important.

Righteous Defense was can be cast on a player and will taunt up to three mobs attacking that player. I've heard, read, and had itty bitty birds tell me that it was changed so that you could cast it directly on mobs and it would function like a single target taunt but every time I tried it, nothing happened. Ergo, I stuck with my macro to cast it on target of target so that I could simply target the mob that got away and hit taunt without having to worry about who it was chasing and it always worked. Speed is gewd. The only problem was on fights like Sartharion pre-HoR when I'd have to try and pick up an elemental that was going after the tank. Especially when said tank was spamming AoE threat (hai thar Mr. Druid! you're tanking a single target! **** off with the swipe spam, would ya? same with you, Mr. Warrior who thinks Thunderclap/Shockwave are necessary to tank a mob that nobody else is attacking because they're all burning down drakes and adds. But I digress....)

Hand of Reckoning is the pally equivalent of a warrior taunt with a tiny bit of holy damage tacked on so that it can be used to both break CC and also give you a tiny bit of threat above the player it was previously attacking.

For both (as already mentioned here), they do nothing if the mob in question is already attacking the pally who casts the spell. It could be argued that HoR gives a tiny bit of threat due to the holy damage, but you've more than likely got something else off cooldown that will build a heck of a lot more threat than HoR. Taunts of any kind are always best left off cooldown until you need to nab a mob that is not currently attacking you. No skilled pally tank would dream of using a taunt as part of a standard threat rotation.

Thought i read somewhere that a couple Ulduar bosses are still parry-haste capable, general Vezax for one. Saw a strat guide that indicated stacking expertise wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea for him. But maybe that was from the PTR, can't seem to remember where i read that though:( Soft cap is 26 though, not 21.

Currently have 31 exp without the glyph as i can't seem to find an upgrade that doesn't include more exp.

Righteous Defense was changed so that when used on an enemy it will automatically "use target of target". It won't single taunt (Although I think it did for a very short time).

If Bad Guy A, B, and C are attacking Bob Healer and for some reason you can only target Bad Guy C. If you click Righteous Defense it'll automatically act as if you're targeting the friendly ally (in this case, Healer Bob), and taunt A, B, and C off.