Frost DPS: Who knew?Follow

I was recently intoduced to a very rare type of DK, the Frost DPS, by a guildmate. He had been doing 5.5k easy with it, so I decided to give it a try. Needless to say, my dps has jumped 500 not even knowing a rotation. i wanted to know if this suprise had any foothold in the DK community

Not true, frost dps is very potent regardless of gear with a good rotation. The key thing is how you use your blood runes and timing your obliterates/howling blasts around keeping your diseases up while also keeping your RP at a minimum with Frost Strike. (Hint: bind Rune Strike to everything)

Oh yea, I know that you shouldn't be using rune strike as DPS because it requires you to dodge or parry, but it is nice to have bound when soloing/PvP'ing because it keeps your RP bar relatively empty. There are also a couple of raid fights where you could be taking physical damage. I'm not sure if the sparks in EoE or on Loatheb do damage but that would be a great example of a dps boost if they do. Also on Gluth I get asked to taunt him for a few seconds to let the debuff on the tank wear off before he continues to pick him back up. However, I think most guilds use two tanks for this fight, we are only able to do this because our druid tank has 50k hp buffed and around 42% dodge while our warrior offtank has Betrayer of Humanity x2 for his fury set so his dps really helps for that fight.

OH!... I should explain.

Folks, don't expect to grab some cookie-cutter Frost build and pull 7.5k on every fight. That screen shot was a huge AoE pull that I posted for someone in a discussion about Blood Boil, HB and how they compare to Unholy in the current patch. It's a good screen shot to shut up those who doubt Frost can pull solid numbers.

In full disclosure, right now I'm trying to push past a wall after 5k, average over all bosses, in our Ulduar 25 clears (including Yogg, no Alagon obviously). Some fights I can see 7 or 8s but them's few and far between. Hell, there are a couple of fights that I'm sitting at 4k unless I swap specs.

Just wanted to get that out there and clear up any confusion about why I posted that image and hope this puts it into perspective.

For comparison to data breakdowns please see Ignis and XT.

Cheers.

I see you had a Ret Aura do some damage there Therion... Pull some aggro, did we? : P

Though, I see you used RS, too. Were you off-tanking?

It's okay, I pull aggro all the time...

Then again, I am a tank. ;)

lol, I'm sure you will.

Dill, I have two questions about your build/rotation.

Do you use your Rune Tap every minute (assuming you have taken damage that is greater than or equal to 10% of your health and your healers aren't in AoE mode anyway)? I keep debating MoB, VB and RT in my mind when crafting Blood DpS builds, and I have yet to decide on which is best.

And why did you take epidemic x2 over the additional Necrosis point? Don't you refresh them before you get the last tic anyway?

Just wondering, not critiquing.

[EDIT]

I'll trade you my TSD for your Betrayer of Humanity.^^ Therion, that offer stands for you as well, for your Rune Edge...


Edited, May 23rd 2009 9:36pm by idiggory

Eh I use it when I'm not actively dpsing or when I need a heal and I don't feel confident that I will get one before I die.

MoB = Eh, decent but after the nerf it doesn't heal THAT much... besides I have the utmost confidence in my tank healers, they don't need help
VB = yeah VB + DS = mega self heal, but that's 3 runes and 2 GCDs for a heal as opposed to..
RT = self heal 1 rune, not a ton of health, but it's great for things like having to move out on X2 or when you're running in/out on mimiron.



well when I hit my DRW I typically act like I'm diseaseless blood, but honestly this comes down to the whole "don't use a rotation" thing. Sometimes I clip my diseases by re-refreshing, sometimes I let them fall off... depends on bloodlust, my cooldowns, boss stuff (ie. exposed heart) and other various things. I never let myself get set into a rotation, I make split-second decisions as to what's the best thing to use.

Edited, May 24th 2009 3:19am by Dilbrt

I see.^^


So, about those weapons...

Dil...

Out-damaged by a WARLOCK?

SHAME ON YOU!

What spec was he?

Oooh, drama. Spill.

Too bad he wasn't around after the next patch. I'm betting the pretty huge Chaos Bolt nerf would have dropped him down. :P

Well that story was a lot less epic than I was hoping for. :/