Hunter Buff today(if you have envoy) and more to come!Follow

Blizzard knows we are low in Uldaur. Looks like a buff incoming later for all hunters. Buff today is only for those with 226 ranged weapons and higher.

About time.




http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223144541&sid=1



Edited, May 19th 2009 3:02pm by Sweathog

Crossposting from general 3.1.2 thread:

"we had an ambitious plan to change the way ammo worked for 3.1"
"This is likely to be a design we continue for the next few tiers of content until we have the opportunity to overhaul ammo completely."
They couldn't finish ammo changes so they're delaying it.... a few TIERS OF RAIDING?! that's the next @#%^ing expansion.

for some reason blizzard decided they wanted to be seen as more proactive so they change everything all the time without giving things time to stabilize and players time to figure out changes.

It appears to me that, on the surface, the logic appears direct but it's actually counter-intuitive when considering standard game design.

If I'm interpreting things folks are saying correctly; take what the logic is at face value:

If you enter instance X with weapon at level Y (most level Y weapons are only available in instance X, by the way), you get a buff.

I hope that's correct...

So, this says that you already have to be successful at defeating bosses in "instance X" to get weapons from "instance X". The one weapon not in "instance X" that you CAN get the buff with, takes a bunch of potentially mind numbing work to get.

Actual game design logic would look at WHY the hunters aren't doing so well in "instance X" and using the NORMAL MECHANICS fix it. It seems to me that a slap patch dps fix doesn't really help most hunters be able to be successful in that instance, you need to help them BEFORE they get to it...

If you look back at BC, Kara set you up gearwise for the next instance, and that set you up for the next. Sounds to me like Naxx isn't properly setting folks up for the following raids. I would think this would mean you'd fix Naxx and then see what happens. I could be totally off base there though.

I too would like to see some better ammo choices. Right now I use the saronite arrows for both my hunters, as the stuff you buy from the vendors is crap. Thank god I have a miner for the mats and a engineer friend to make it for me.

First off there is no facerolling a hunter anymore. Shot macros are dead.

Second for a hunter in greens to out dps any other class in epics one or more of the following conditions must be met.

The epic charater has to have a horribly ****** spec.
The epic charater has to be funtionally retarded.
An over exaggeration of a hunter's dps ability needs to be posted on an internet forum.

You're an idiot who has clearly never actually played with a hunter.

Hunters took it in the shorts in a big way when BM got nerfed. So much so that Blizz is now backpedaling and has admitted that they over-nerfed (I almost typed "over-nuked, which would have been more appropriate, frankly) us. This very MINOR buff is merely one in a series of fixes to try to correct that problem.

If any of you guys are talking about PvP, you should be shot. Hunters STILL faceroll everything in any of the 213234 cheap comps, and will probably do so for a while.

Edit:

I'm not agreeing with the person above me AT ALL.

Edited, May 21st 2009 5:35pm by Yuppley

Sub-Default Posting 101:

There are three sure fire to get your post sub-defaulted:
1) Spam gold-selling or power leveling services.
2) Go into class specific forums and tell them that they are OP facerollers.
3) Suggesting that there is a better PvP pet than Æthien.

Really, he's got the stamina of a bear, reflexes of a cat and he's the only ferocity pet that gets Bad Attitude. Just...why would you?

Actually, I can understand the illusion that would create MrsGemini's post, incorrect as it is.

First part of the illusion is the assumption that all players are equal. They are not.
Second part of the illusion is that Blizz actually balances the classes to provide, at a perfectly played level, a balance between classes & specs of classes.
Third part of the illusion is by assuming the second part is true, all classes and specs of classes DESERVE to be equal.
The last part of the illusion is that you must see and accept the first 3 parts as totally true. Failing to believe any one of them breaks the illusion.

I have suffered from parts of the illusion at many different times and in many different ways. Once I got past all of them, I realized how wrong I was. So I can empathize with MrsGemini but it doesn't change the fact it's all an illusion.

Hunters CAN do good damage when well played and they should since they are a pure dps class. Blizz cannot figure out where to BALANCE the game at: for the average player or the exceptional ones. If you balance at average, then the exceptional ones totally own the game. If you balance at exceptional, the game becomes too difficult to play for the average player. In vascillating between these two balance points, Blizz creates a ton of problems for themselves.

Personally, I think they should balance the game at average and let the exceptional player stand out so the average folks can avoid them or better yet: hit them up for advice to try and become exceptional themselves! (or at least as good as they can be.) I would not worry about the 1 out of 100 players that can take down a Boss almost all by themselves by doing fancy tricks, using every tool in the book, and having the reflexes of an over-caffinated Capuchin Monkey. These players SHOULD be allowed to be exceptional and congratulated for it, thoughts of "We're not worthy" praise come to mind.

Next, it might be okay to rotate classes and specs of classes to the forefront. One patch Rogues own the next, the next patch it's the Druids turn, etc. Having said that, Blizz should publish that ahead of time and LET people know about the class buff up. This might entice people to work a toon of that class up, prior to its ascendance, and experience the class at its pinnacle. Make it a monthly rotation and a separate set of buffs: "This month, the month of the Priest God "Healamus-Hammerus", all Priests get a bonus 10% to their base healing and damage!", everyone worships the Priest for a month and all enjoy the buff's effects. Lesser played classes might find themselves invited to Raids, BG's and instances during their month.

Next, consistency among the pure types would be good. If you are a pure dps class, you should be within 5-10% (average player) dps amount of all the other pure dps classes. Healing classes the same. Hybrid classes and specs are tough and will be difficult to balance by nature.

Of course, this is all a bit of an over simplification, but it might make the game more interesting and remove some of the effects of falling for "The Illusion".

I know I'm going to get a rate down for talking about karma, but someone had a hissy fit and rated down pretty much everyone in here.

Edited, May 22nd 2009 2:31pm by Yuppley

"Who is topping DPS"

"Buff/Nerfs"

Such are labels of the game. I am a personal believer in the driver of the toon determines his output, nothing else. I have a few people in guild who are EXCELLENT at ANY class they play, meaning that it is not the class but the person understanding the mechanics of the class and paying attention to what they need to do to accurately play that class. I also do not understand the "BUFF" to only a certain weapon. Why even post that? We had DPS increases when we received new weapons in a new instances. What is this latest buff?!? Only certain weapons from new instances.. kinda sounds the same as the old system but they effed up the new weapon stats and re-worked them. I think the argument about ammo is also correct also. Why haven't we received a new ammo other than crafted? I do not believe that skills should be the end-all of a class' DPS. It is sad that the best vendor ammo is from BC.