When to get PIFollow

I am leveling my priest as disc and the 5/5 crit from holy.

When should I grab PI?

I mean there are other sexy talents that I want in the area. So how much of a priority is PI?

Right now I am thinking FW or FP. And grabbing PI towards level 80.

Should I get it now or is better to wait?

Link in sig.

How does the PI macro look?

#showtooltip
/cast [nomodifier, target=player] PI; [modifier:shift, target=target] PI
/w $t Feel the power

Is that it or is the 3rd line a bit off? Going from memory so not sure.

Also it wont whisper me will it that would be creepy.

edit:

Did some digging. The version up there should work just fine.

Here is a fancy version that should also warn when it is fading.

#showtooltip Pain Suppression
/run local n,s=UnitName("target"),"Pain Suppression"; if GetSpellCooldown(s)==0 then SendChatMessage(s.." on you", "WHISPER",nil,n) SlashCmdList["IN"](string.format("8 /t %s %s gone!", n, s))end
/cast Pain Suppression

I don't think the Pain Suppression needs to be in the 1st line but I may try and test with and without tonight. Would also work for PS or other spells rather easily.

If I can whisper mobs that I am Smiting them that would be funny shirt.

Edited, May 18th 2009 10:19pm by Horsemouth

Ok, the fancy macro does self whisper. Also for PI the 8 needs to change to 15 and the PS references need to change to PI.

The CD over part works as well.

Pretty cool.

All most all disc specs grab that talent, its HAWT.



No way, I plan on going 57/14 Searing Light is too deep and I would miss out on too much goodness in the disc tree.

The benefit is minimal anyway of boosting the damage of Penance. Even if I was to arena disc that would be too costly to grab as I would want other stuff in the disc tree more so.

Maybe if I was to do a sharts and giggles Smite/Penance DPS build I'd for sure grab it but other wise not so much.

Pain Suppression is a great spell for handling burst on tanks in a raid setting. This is coming from a tanks perspective as my priest is still low level. But the damage reduction from PS is great and a loss of 5% threat is meaningless.

Martyrdom having no place in a PvE build is something I agree with.

I was planning on using this build but I guess one could take 3 points from FW and use them to get SL. But for healing SL isn't that sexy. I'd rather take the increased crit to make my Flash Heals and Penance do more and have it be easier to keep up DA.

Also, because Mental doesn't check these forums and someone has to do it;

You need to grab Pi if you want to calculate the radius or perimiter of a circle.

OK... I want to add to the post, not just act silly (but really, who's acting =P)
I changed to disc around L65 or so. I was also just really learning how to heal groups at this time and never used either PI or PS. They were conveniences that weren't really necessary. When it came time to incorporate them into my game, I was unsure how and where to use them. So skip them if you like, but if you do add them, start using them right away or they are wasted points.

FW is a semi-PvP talent. The crit portion is mainly a continuation of Holy Specialization with the added value of affecting non-holy spells (uh, just Mind Blast I think?) as well. As far as I am concerned (at max level), crit is good- more crit is more gooder... with some exceptions.

FP... 4% more? Again, healing is good- more healing is... well you get the picture. Faster MDs may or may not be beneficial to your playstyle. It has its uses in PvE, but really comes into play more in PvP.

FW is a proc. FP is a constant. Until you get DA, I wouldn't really worry about crit. My crit fluctuated wildly while levelling. Don't sacrifice a clear upgrade to maintain a particular crit %, you'll get that crit back later.

PI is just plain cool. Use it on yourself for fast, efficient casting. Use it on another caster to give them a boost. I had a thread about this a while back... here it is. After using it in various circumstances, you will really get a feel for just how good a spell it is with a relatively short cd.

Incidentally, I was told that the haste from PI does not stack with Bloodlust/Heroism. If I am planning on throwing it on a caster, I wait until heroism ends before casting it.

Other places for PI:
-macro into PoH (along with Inner Focus for fast, free group heal) or Gheal.
-macro into Mana Burn for PvP.
-macro into "use" trinkets.
-macro into rez for cheaper, faster resets.

(Does it show that I like mah macahros?)

Searing Light

Most Disc take FW as well. SL is a DPS talent. It does nothing to increase the healing of Penance.

Disc is great for healing tanks but better when paired with another healer for the job. The disc spec is all about reactive healing on the tanks, shielding the raid and keeping up DA and Inspiration on the tank and RH on the raid not cancel casting or otherwise spamming heals on the tank. Being an exclusive tank healer is not using the spec to its fullest potential.

What spec do you use sederix, I am curious.

I'm thinking very much that Sederix never realized that Searing Light only increases the damage on Penance rather than the healing as well. Because yes, picking Searing Light over Inspiration in ANY discipline healer build is like serving a merlot wine with brownies. Though not picking Pain Suppression is going to ***** you over on bosses like Mimiron, it's a decision I can understand. Inspiration is one of the few talents on which I for 100% agree with ElitistJerks that you simply MUST take it if you're tank healing.