Hit rating--how much do I need?Follow

after reading the EJ bit i would say:
Draenei shammy? 341 hitrating
Horde shammy ? 368 hitrating

and i don't think dual wield spec works for spells tbh

So will I want to pull those points out when I start getting more hit from gear/gems/chants, or do I still need them since I will be dual-wielding? And how much Expertise do I need to get capped on that as well?

Damn this is so much more complicated than my Hunter.

Okay, I am confused. if it doesn't count towards spell hit, aren't I going to need to gear past melee hit to get to spell hit cap, so the points aren't useful as they'd put me over cap? Or does hit rating apply differently to melee and spell?

Just checked EJ, and 17% is spell hit cap, and is very useful.

But the specialization doesn't effect spell hit.

Brings up the question...if you're getting to 17% anyway for spells, then you don't even need to waste 3 points on the specialization?

Ahh, that makes much more sense now. Thanks for clearing that up!

I feel what your going for Isyris. I was going for enh to be my duel spec a while back and spent forever looking for a straight, coherent answer to the hit cap question.

Here's what I found.

446 hit is what you will need to cap yourself out for spells. However, most people shoot for 368 for a 14% chance to hit. With raid buffs you pick up the other 3%. If your ally this is even easier.

Also don't forget that you need 214 expertise so a boss won't dodge your attacks from behind.

I was told when starting to shoot for 8% hit to cap out my yellow attacks right away. Then start building up on expertise and +hit at the same time until they were where I wanted them. Don't worry about getting a hard hit cap on your offhand white hits. You don't want to know the number needed for that and I don't think it's possible to get it anyways.



And after going through all of this and gathering leather stuff to get my cap, I went ele for my offspec instead :(

Sure every little bit helps and it could allow to add a better gem, but the 5 expertise isn't that much. If you have a axe and a non axe weapon to chose from and they have pretty much the exact same stats then go for the axe. But don't focus only on axes because of the racial.

If you have the marks picking up the +Hit helm in wintersgrasp is a good upgrade until you can get into naxx. If not then there's one in heroic DTK. Also picking up Pride from badges will help out your hit rating a bit. There's also a nice chest peice from being exalted with the Argent Crusade you could look at. It will lower you hit some, but the extra agi and int will boost your AP.

If you can pick up some of these (especially Pride) and toss on some enchants then you should be good to go for Naxx 10, or even 25 if your guild has it pretty much on farm. Losing some +hit for a good sized AP boost is ok, you can always make up some +hit with food/elixirs if need be.

Ouch, that probably doesn't help you much then. I'd say to get into some PuGs, but if your server is anything like mine then it's filled with people starting Naxx 10 PuGs only taking Ulduar 10 geared players :P

If you know enough people just start your own PuGs whenever you have some time. Figure out what wings have the best gear for you and hit those up. If you guys only manage to get 4-5 bosses down then at least you have a shot for some gear.

Or you could just head over to Spinebreaker :) Look me up and I'll take you guys on some 25 mans with us.

So glad I came across this post as I just specced to enhancement, and the gear I have managed to pick up has only 43 hit rating xD.

Guess it's time to go hit mental.

26 is the soft cap for expertise, yeah. The hard cap is somewhere around 57, but it's pretty much impossible to get and is included only because I feel like typing >.>

The hit rating (which is why I'm using the chains--much cheaper than Accuracy) stacks, the disarm reduction effect does not.

yep yep, that's correct

I've been checking how close I am using the spell info option.