TellMeWhen - Survival Dps for Dummies.Follow

I made this to help people who are struggling with SV dps as it's a great way to go from "Oh sh*t what am I supposed to do now!?" to a reasonably smooth rotation and higher dps numbers.

There are a lot of people who can't get everything out of Survival, and that's not strange as it is a rather complex way of dealing dps.
What I did here is use a small addon called TellMeWhen. ( wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tellmewhen.aspx )
What this addon does is show you if cooldowns you specified are available, debuffs are on your target and more like that.

Here is how I set it up:
linking to pics as I can't be ***** to re-upload them all onto Allakhazam

Part 1: the spells/cooldowns:
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Select Icon Type > Cooldown.

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Next choose a spell, we're using Explosive shot for our left most button.
Black arrow for the next in line and Aimed shot (or multi shot, depending on spec) on the third button from the left.


For the fourth button we're using serpent sting, click choose spell/buff/etc and type in Serpent Sting.
Then we'll set it up so it shows when we want it to:
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Select Buff/Debuff

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Select Absent under 'Show when buff/debuff'

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Select Target under Unit to watch.

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And don't forget to set it to watch for a debuff.

Now we're done setting up and you can move it around and change it's size until you're comfortable with it before typing '/tmw' to lock it into place.

Now, if you did it right, you will see what I have here:
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Whatever shows up you can shoot at your target.


Now the way we dps is very simple, you always shoot the first shot in the line from left to right.
So at the start we have Explosive, Black Arrow, Aimed and Serpent and we'll shoot them in that order.
Later we have Aimed and Serpent available so you shoot Aimed, third picture we have Explosive and Aimed available so we shoot explosive and then aimed.

If nothing shows up, you shoot steady shots until something shows again.

Simple right?

This neat little addon will remove the necessity to focus on what is coming off cooldown and when and what you should shoot at what time.
All you'll have to pay attention to is those 4 images (note: they aren't buttons and you can't click them) and your Kill Shot and you can focus on the fight at hand.

Personally, I was amazed at how much this simplifies dealing dps as SV, it's not completely flawless but I'm sure that it will be a massive improvement if you were struggling with rotations before.

Edited, May 9th 2009 7:10pm by Aethien

Edited, May 10th 2009 9:23pm by Aethien

Wow, that is pretty nice, thanks for sharing this addon, I will be using that if I ever finish levelling my hunter.

Excellent addon, exactly what I was looking for.

The only difficulty I found with the manual priority was keeping serpent sting up, I tried CooldownTimers but it's pretty hard to notice when something isn't there.

I'm guessing it's possible to add mend pet to this, so you can keep mend up.

Thanks for the tip Aethien , it has proven quite usefull. I mentioned this addon to a hunter friend of mine, who had used it before and was now using http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/shotwatch.aspx

I haven't had a chance to try this one yet though, perhaps someone else can comment?

just an FYI which is probably noobish anyways but if you didn't notice you have to type /tellmewhen or whatever else you can do to lock and enable the addon. I found this out when trying to figure out why it wasn't disappearing when not in combat and why when I was in combat and using the skills the boxes were still there!

Just a heads up if your a person like me who doesn't read!

Yea I use ShotAndAwe = http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/shotandawe.aspx

Is there a way to get Kill Shot to show up when it's available and then have it shown as a cool-down timer?

The closest I've come to getting it to do what I want is to put Kill Shot in two slots with one showing its availability and then the other showing its cool-down timer. This works but it looks ugly and I have to remember that it's only really ready when both icons are up.

Haha, really?

Here I thought I was doinitrong using Power Auras because it was super simple and had lots of pretty pictures to choose from. xD

But first people have to stop being this guy. Baby steps, and all that.

This addon will not tell you about overwriting Explosive debuffs, it just tells you when you can shoot a shot. The delay of .5 seconds after it is up is all you brah.



I think there is, I'll have to look at how I set up my Kill Shot, I'll post it when I get home.

EDIT: I use reactive ability and show when usable on Kill Shot, seems to work fine for me.

Edited, May 19th 2009 10:14pm by browningguns

Oh, good catch. I wasn't thinking in those terms. What you could do is setup TMW to look for your Explosive Shot debuff on the target(what is the debuff named Isyris?) and display when that drops, but it would be a dual-icon situation like HunterJones was talking about. I would imagine that it would be just as easy to wait that half second.

For the auras, can you change to location? I would get sick of having little dots over my head all day....

I'm pretty sure you forgot to lock TMW in place. ;)




And i tried faceshooter, it's a nice addon that keeps things like shots coming off cooldown in mind but it only shows you what to shoot next and nothing else so it doesn't help you learn your rotation at all.