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#1 May 04 2009 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I was wondering what do You think about not using rupture in your raid dps cycle as a mutilate rogue and instead of that envenom(ofc only when bleeds are provided from other raid members).)

I noticed durning my last 25 ulduar raid that my dps went up when I started spaming envenom instead of trying to keep rupture all the time.

Maybe Im just terrible bad and normal rotation(keeping HFB,S&D,Rupture all the time plus envenom ofc)is not going in my case very well but maybe benefits from envenom spam(more i.p,envenom crits,easier rotation)are good and replacing rupture in rotation by envenom is viable option(ofc 4 piece T8 can change that).

Im waiting for Your opinion and Im sorry for my english.
#2 May 04 2009 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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I would say that on a fight that is a basic target dummy (i.e. Patchwerk) you wouldn't necessarily need to use rupture, if you have another class providing bleeds. On any other fight that requires movement from voidzones or whatever, then yes rupture will tick while you aren't chopping away at the boss.
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#3 May 04 2009 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, pretty much what Feyras said. As most bosses involve some movement, I'd say rupture is a must.

I do agree though, when I'm popping off 8-10k Envenoms, Rupture seems a bit weak.
#4 May 04 2009 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I do agree though, when I'm popping off 8-10k Envenoms, Rupture seems a bit weak.

I crit one for 16k in Ulduar last night. Nearly **** myself when I saw it.
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#5 May 04 2009 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Demea wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
I do agree though, when I'm popping off 8-10k Envenoms, Rupture seems a bit weak.

I crit one for 16k in Ulduar last night. Nearly sh*t myself when I saw it.

OH YEAH WELL I HIT ONE FOR 80K.

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#6 May 04 2009 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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You probably could on curator during evocation.
#7 May 04 2009 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Netherspite + Hysteria

Edited, May 4th 2009 7:11pm by Banatu
#8 May 04 2009 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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I dunno, I typically open with Garrote so I can use HfB (even if there's a druid, warrior, or hunter popping their own bleeds). After that I just spam Envenom to keep the buff up and keep SnD refreshed. Every once in a while I'll decide to throw out a random Rupture, especially if I'm about to move away from the boss (Anub, Maly, and Sapp come to mind), but ever since the patch it hasn't been a traditional part of my rotation the way it used to.
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