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#1 May 01 2009 at 7:08 PM Rating: Good
As some of you may know (or not), I normally play shadow.

Well, okay, only play shadow.

With Dual-Spec, I wanted to give disc a shot. Now, I'm kind of fuzzy on gear for Disc.

I've read this thread, which lists a very good breakdown of the stats important for disc, but it only lists starter disc gear.

What I'm wondering is, how well would my gear (armory link in sig) perform as Disc? Would I be fine for healing heroics?

Obviously, I would have to replace some pieces, such as those with hit on them. Replacement suggestions would be much appreciated. And any other suggestions are also welcome.

Edited, May 3rd 2009 8:55pm by IDrownFish
#2 May 02 2009 at 12:56 AM Rating: Good
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You don't need to change a single thing to heal heroics. Despite your obvious focus on hit rating, you still got plenty of those things you actually need since Disc and Shadow share exactly the same stats besides that.

But not only are you perfectly fine for heroics, you could easily main-heal your way through Naxx 10 as well as most likely even more than that.

I don't know what gear you managed to grab on the side while doing damage, so other than a "replace hit rating with crit, haste, intellect, and spellpower without sacrificing what you already have" I don't really know what to tell you in regards to replacements.

Dying Curse is like the only piece that screams for instant replacement, possibly by Egg of Mortal Essence or something like that. You probably have something useful in your bank already.

Probably not really an option for you since you want your gear for Shadow too, but re-gemming for Int rather than SP would be the next step. Your mana pool just doesn't match the rest of your gear (from a healer's perspective) though things might look a lot better once you actually switch to your Disc build and get the 15% extra mana from Mental Strenght.

You'll be perfectly fine out there though...
#3 May 02 2009 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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#4 May 02 2009 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sundial of the Exiled is probably more the trinket I'd be looking to replace.
Darned that 'harmful' adjective. Would have bought that so fast...::mutter mutter::

Elsewise I agree with Karnn, you could probably heal most content blindfolded.

Edited, May 2nd 2009 1:17pm by Zemzelette
#5 May 02 2009 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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Sundial of the Exiled is probably more the trinket I'd be looking to replace.
Darned that 'harmful' adjective. Would have bought that so fast...::mutter mutter::


Yeah, but the passive crit is quite a chunk with a 100% uptime and his spellpower is more than sufficient without a proc from the other one. Plus random procs and healing don't really get along too well. Even the haste proc from the Egg is somewhat questionable.

I'm usually a big fan of "automatic" trinkets, but healing is a big exception for me.
#6 May 02 2009 at 3:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Really? I dig automatic.

I just can't get into the rhythm of manual procs, and if I macro it in with a handful of spells it always seems to have the rotten luck of activating at the end of a fight. Granted, that's still going to happen when the proc is automatic, but at least then I can blame the Random Number Generator instead of myself :p


Scapegoating aside,

It is a nice chunk of crit, I agree. But between his 16% base, 3/3 Focused Will, and 5/5 Holy Specialization: He's not exactly hurting for Crit either. He's not hurting for...well...much of anything really.

Seems a bit silly to debate which flavor icing to put on the cake, when he'll probably have anything even remotely dicey shifted out within the week. But I think we can both agree; While all the other Shadow pieces can serve a multifunctional purpose with Disc excellently, the trinkets don't do this quite as well.



Edited, May 2nd 2009 7:23pm by Zemzelette
#7 May 02 2009 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
Zemzelette wrote:
It is a nice chunk of crit, I agree. But between his 16% base, 3/3 Focused Will, and 5/5 Holy Specialization: He's not exactly hurting for Crit either. He's not hurting for...well...much of anything really.

Seems a bit silly to debate which flavor icing to put on the cake, when he'll probably have anything even remotely dicey shifted out within the week.


I'm loving this thread more and more.
#8 May 02 2009 at 8:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to hear how you do, IDrownFish. My guess is that you will be fine in most heroic content, but you might find yourself going oom on longer fights. I figure you to be at 178 mp5 in combat, and that seems a bit low to me.

*edit* You're probably not buffed with DS in the armory, so add the regen off of 80 spirit (~30mp5 in combat) and that puts you in better shape.

Edited, May 2nd 2009 11:54pm by Trylofer
#9 May 02 2009 at 9:37 PM Rating: Good
Trylofer wrote:
I'd like to hear how you do, IDrownFish. My guess is that you will be fine in most heroic content, but you might find yourself going oom on longer fights. I figure you to be at 178 mp5 in combat, and that seems a bit low to me.

*edit* You're probably not buffed with DS in the armory, so add the regen off of 80 spirit (~30mp5 in combat) and that puts you in better shape.


I've been eager to give healing a try, but recently I haven't had a chance. My guild's been mostly preoccupied with Ulduar for the time being, and I've been hard-pressed to find a Heroic group.

I'll be sure to keep you informed, however.
#10 May 03 2009 at 4:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been running things through Rawr. 3.4K sustained HPS (4 minutes, Disc Tank FHealmodel). There is no heroic that requires that kind of throughput.

I didn't even include any buffs like food, Int, or BoW, let alone Replenishment from somebody. So unless he does the tanking himself, there is absolutely nothing to worry about :)
#11 May 03 2009 at 10:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've been running things through Rawr. 3.4K sustained HPS (4 minutes, Disc Tank FHealmodel). There is no heroic that requires that kind of throughput.


That's rather good to hear. When I was thinking about the regen, I was thinking back to when my gear was around that level. What I failed to figure in was that my mana pool was about 60% of what it currently is. I've heard that disc kits and shadow kits are extremely similar. When I compared IDrownFish's armory to mine, I was reminded how true that is. I'm actually in a similar situation, but reversed.

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Sundial of the Exiled is probably more the trinket I'd be looking to replace.
Darned that 'harmful' adjective. Would have bought that so fast...::mutter mutter::


In fights that I know I will be able to toss out SW:P, I actually replace my SP "use" trinket with the Sundial. The crit is always welcome, and when it procs (I think the internal cd is 45 seconds?), the boost is substantial enough to keep using it, even in my healing kit.
#12 May 04 2009 at 6:40 AM Rating: Good
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You'll be fine even with the 300+ hit. Only difference between your gear and mine is your gear kicks my gears *** without breaking a sweat. I healed a DK tank with 535def, 17% dodge and 13% parry through H GD, H DTK, and H OK yesterday. Besides learning the fights in H OK, no one died. Middle link below if you want to compare.
#13 May 07 2009 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I have always healed holy, but recently picked up the disc spec to be more of a utility healer for our 25ulduar raids. How do I look on armory as of right now? Please ignore the glyphs, I am changing them out when I get home from work today (FH, Penn, PW:S, fading, shadowfiend, lev).
I'm open to any suggestions for gear, gems, enchants, and how I should set up my spellbars (for disc).

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Duskwood&n=Amallthia

Much thanks XD
#14 Jun 16 2009 at 10:50 PM Rating: Good
Wow, it's been a long time, but I finally got to heal as disc.

The other night a Guildie was pugging a semi-completed Naxx 10, and I decided to tag along. We couldn't find a second healer, so they turned to me.

Holy crap, was it fun.

The only quarter not cleared was Military, so we popped over to that. I healed from Raz to Saph, at which point it was getting late so we called it a night. I had a blast wand did pretty well. I topped the healing meters (but we had to switch healers partway through when the other had to leave) and I never went below ~75% mana. I <3 replenishment.

And then today I healed Heroic Gun'drak and Heroic Nexus, and did very well on those, too. By the way, 4 DKs + Army of the Dead = a Thriller video.

One thing I noticed was that I ran out of mana more quickly in the Heroics than I did in Naxx 10. I chalked it up to a lack of Replenishment and Arcane Intellect.

I'm looking forward to healing as disc more.
#15 Jun 18 2009 at 3:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Heroics are harder to heal than Naxx 10 purely because of that mana issue. Once you break 21k odd mana unbuffed though you'll find you NEVER go OOM unless raid healing. I raid heal on IC in 25 man Ulduar as we use the Shammie healer for interrupts and the Pally on the tanks. It's literally the only fight pre-Vezax that you'll have any mana issues on :P
Disc for life!
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