I personally crit Korz earlier for 3500 MH.
I think you smoke @#%^ing crack.
Average crits are well over 2k for me.
Honestly, I think you are pulling those numbers out of your ***.
Don't make me go in a bg and start taking screens. That's just gonna have to **** me off signing up for another photobucket account.
Edited, Apr 20th 2009 9:01pm by MYteddy
- Forums
- World of Warcraft
- Class Discussion
- Hate to do it........
Hate to do it........Follow
#27Zafire,
Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 7:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You've seriously won 9 WG's since WoLK was released?
#29Zafire,
Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 8:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No worrys, I already did it for you
Just re-read through drivel and saw this gem
So which is it Zafire? You obviously don't even know your own stance on this matter.
Quote:
A paladin jumped in halfway through your stunlock and I still did not die.
Quote:
If someone focuses you, you're going to die.
Quote:
Any class will kill you in 3-5 hits, depending on how much they crit you.
So which is it Zafire? You obviously don't even know your own stance on this matter.
#31Zafire,
Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 8:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I was talking about Rogues getting focused.
Zafire wrote:
Quote:
Zaph, are you honestly telling Theo that he is new to 80 and needs more experience?
Yes, because Rogue is different at 80 then it was at 70. A lot different.
Uh, not...really.
We still open with CS/Garrote, right?
We still use mut as a mut spec?
We still have Blind, and Vanish, and Sap, etc?
Really the only new thing is FoK and having Prep as a mut spec.
I've already learned most other classes while playing my DK, so nothing much to learn.
****, I bet you don't even know how to ambush-vanish-sap or FoK-vanish-sap.
Come back when you've got skill, scrub.
#33Zafire,
Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 8:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You use Blind against bleeding targets? Smart. Kind of funny to use Blind and Garrote in the same sentence.
Oh, today.
That answers your question. Full PVP gear brah. I was stacking resilience today. So what you are saying now is (from what I gather you think this is low), I hit for 4k on Mutilates minimum?
Let's walk for a moment...
You have 13~k armor. 46% less physical.
lets keep walking....
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and not count frost presence here. You have 20k health (unbuffed) and 4k is what, 20% right? So.... 4k damage for 42 energy...
Rogues have 130 energy.
Why are you looking at damage based off of ONE move? better yet, why are you exaggerating the effect by saying
You seem to forget/not realize, a mutilate is two attacks, not one. The numbers you are working with in your mind are really skewed.
That answers your question. Full PVP gear brah. I was stacking resilience today. So what you are saying now is (from what I gather you think this is low), I hit for 4k on Mutilates minimum?
Let's walk for a moment...
You have 13~k armor. 46% less physical.
lets keep walking....
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and not count frost presence here. You have 20k health (unbuffed) and 4k is what, 20% right? So.... 4k damage for 42 energy...
Rogues have 130 energy.
Why are you looking at damage based off of ONE move? better yet, why are you exaggerating the effect by saying
Quote:
how can you say Rogue hits hard? Hardest I hit plate buffed up the yin yang (4k AP) is 1100 mutilates. Hardest i've ever seen a Rogue hit me in a BG on my DK in frost presence is 1400, and he had hunger for blood
You seem to forget/not realize, a mutilate is two attacks, not one. The numbers you are working with in your mind are really skewed.
Zafire wrote:
Quote:
Uh, not...really.
We still open with CS/Garrote, right?
We still use mut as a mut spec?
We still have Blind, and Vanish, and Sap, etc?
Really the only new thing is FoK and having Prep as a mut spec.
I've already learned most other classes while playing my DK, so nothing much to learn.
sh*t, I bet you don't even know how to ambush-vanish-sap or FoK-vanish-sap.
Come back when you've got skill, scrub.
We still open with CS/Garrote, right?
We still use mut as a mut spec?
We still have Blind, and Vanish, and Sap, etc?
Really the only new thing is FoK and having Prep as a mut spec.
I've already learned most other classes while playing my DK, so nothing much to learn.
sh*t, I bet you don't even know how to ambush-vanish-sap or FoK-vanish-sap.
Come back when you've got skill, scrub.
You use Blind against bleeding targets? Smart. Kind of funny to use Blind and Garrote in the same sentence.
The thing that's new about learning when you play Rogue, is if any other class targets you, you're most likely going to die. And very quickly. This was not the case at 70.
Zafire. Crack.
Zafire wrote:
Quote:
Uh, not...really.
We still open with CS/Garrote, right?
We still use mut as a mut spec?
We still have Blind, and Vanish, and Sap, etc?
Really the only new thing is FoK and having Prep as a mut spec.
I've already learned most other classes while playing my DK, so nothing much to learn.
sh*t, I bet you don't even know how to ambush-vanish-sap or FoK-vanish-sap.
Come back when you've got skill, scrub.
We still open with CS/Garrote, right?
We still use mut as a mut spec?
We still have Blind, and Vanish, and Sap, etc?
Really the only new thing is FoK and having Prep as a mut spec.
I've already learned most other classes while playing my DK, so nothing much to learn.
sh*t, I bet you don't even know how to ambush-vanish-sap or FoK-vanish-sap.
Come back when you've got skill, scrub.
You use Blind against bleeding targets? Smart. Kind of funny to use Blind and Garrote in the same sentence.
The thing that's new about learning when you play Rogue, is if any other class targets you, you're most likely going to die. And very quickly. This was not the case at 70.
Show me where I say to use Blind against a bleeding target.
Less stupid, more actual reading comprehension, please.
Quote:
Oh, today.
That answers your question. Full PVP gear brah. I was stacking resilience today. So what you are saying now is (from what I gather you think this is low), I hit for 4k on Mutilates minimum?
Let's walk for a moment...
You have 13~k armor. 46% less physical.
lets keep walking....
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and not count frost presence here. You have 20k health (unbuffed) and 4k is what, 20% right? So.... 4k damage for 42 energy...
Rogues have 130 energy.
Why are you looking at damage based off of ONE move? better yet, why are you exaggerating the effect by saying
Quote:
how can you say Rogue hits hard? Hardest I hit plate buffed up the yin yang (4k AP) is 1100 mutilates. Hardest i've ever seen a Rogue hit me in a BG on my DK in frost presence is 1400, and he had hunger for blood
You seem to forget/not realize, a mutilate is two attacks, not one. The numbers you are working with in your mind are really skewed.
That answers your question. Full PVP gear brah. I was stacking resilience today. So what you are saying now is (from what I gather you think this is low), I hit for 4k on Mutilates minimum?
Let's walk for a moment...
You have 13~k armor. 46% less physical.
lets keep walking....
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and not count frost presence here. You have 20k health (unbuffed) and 4k is what, 20% right? So.... 4k damage for 42 energy...
Rogues have 130 energy.
Why are you looking at damage based off of ONE move? better yet, why are you exaggerating the effect by saying
Quote:
how can you say Rogue hits hard? Hardest I hit plate buffed up the yin yang (4k AP) is 1100 mutilates. Hardest i've ever seen a Rogue hit me in a BG on my DK in frost presence is 1400, and he had hunger for blood
You seem to forget/not realize, a mutilate is two attacks, not one. The numbers you are working with in your mind are really skewed.
I just posted a pic of Myteddy hitting my DK. I have about 100 resilience in that picture. It was pure armor he was critting.
When I talk about 1100, i'm typically talking about per hand.
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 12:30am by Zafire
Hume male, Zafire, Server: Sylph
50DNC, 50SMN, 50BRD, 50SAM, 50DRG, 50WHM, 52THF, 52COR, 52MNK, 58BST, 60WAR, 67PLD, 69PUP, 75RNG, 75SCH, 75BLM, 80NIN, 80DRK, 85BLU, 85RDM
Retired since February 2011.
All SJ's capped for LVL99!
50DNC, 50SMN, 50BRD, 50SAM, 50DRG, 50WHM, 52THF, 52COR, 52MNK, 58BST, 60WAR, 67PLD, 69PUP, 75RNG, 75SCH, 75BLM, 80NIN, 80DRK, 85BLU, 85RDM
Retired since February 2011.
All SJ's capped for LVL99!
Quote:
5k heart strike, 3800 sudden doom proc, 7k DS 7k DS, 3k melee hit, dead rogue
25800
5 hits x 1.5=7.5 seconds
25800/7.5= 3440(dps)
3789 mutilate(going by your screen here)x 3 (130 energy) + a finisher(evis 3k-5k, lets go with 4) 4k= 19156
4moves x 1 = 4 seconds.
19156/4= 4789(dps)
Sup brah.
Oh, and that's going against you. Plate. With 46% mitigation of my physical. Oh thats also not counting auto attacks that are a swingin in that 4 seconds.
Sup.
Edited, Apr 20th 2009 9:39pm by MYteddy
#39Zafire,
Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 8:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sudden Doom is an automatic proc, it procs on Heart Strike. I don't have to activate it or anything. It just goes off on it's own. I'd consider that part of the same attack.
Zafire wrote:
Quote:
25800
5 hits x 1.5=7.5 seconds
25800/7.5= 3440(dps)
3789 mutilate(going by your screen here)x 3 (130 energy) + a finisher(evis 3k-5k, lets go with 4) 4k= 19156
4moves x 1 = 4 seconds.
19156/4= 4789(dps)
Sup brah.
Oh, and that's going against you. Plate. With 46% mitigation of my physical. Oh thats also not counting auto attacks that are a swingin in that 4 seconds.
Sup.
5 hits x 1.5=7.5 seconds
25800/7.5= 3440(dps)
3789 mutilate(going by your screen here)x 3 (130 energy) + a finisher(evis 3k-5k, lets go with 4) 4k= 19156
4moves x 1 = 4 seconds.
19156/4= 4789(dps)
Sup brah.
Oh, and that's going against you. Plate. With 46% mitigation of my physical. Oh thats also not counting auto attacks that are a swingin in that 4 seconds.
Sup.
Sudden Doom is an automatic proc, it procs on Heart Strike. I don't have to activate it or anything. It just goes off on it's own. I'd consider that part of the same attack.
Thing is, my gear isn't good. I'm in T7 crap and still using a Titansteel weapon.
You're not going to be hitting 7k DSs against a DK, especially in your gear. Maybe with Zerker buff and/or Tenacity (not that it's possible to have both), but there's no way you're going to hit that hard on plate with a 186 DPS weapon.
Zafire wrote:
Quote:
25800
5 hits x 1.5=7.5 seconds
25800/7.5= 3440(dps)
3789 mutilate(going by your screen here)x 3 (130 energy) + a finisher(evis 3k-5k, lets go with 4) 4k= 19156
4moves x 1 = 4 seconds.
19156/4= 4789(dps)
Sup brah.
Oh, and that's going against you. Plate. With 46% mitigation of my physical. Oh thats also not counting auto attacks that are a swingin in that 4 seconds.
Sup.
5 hits x 1.5=7.5 seconds
25800/7.5= 3440(dps)
3789 mutilate(going by your screen here)x 3 (130 energy) + a finisher(evis 3k-5k, lets go with 4) 4k= 19156
4moves x 1 = 4 seconds.
19156/4= 4789(dps)
Sup brah.
Oh, and that's going against you. Plate. With 46% mitigation of my physical. Oh thats also not counting auto attacks that are a swingin in that 4 seconds.
Sup.
Sudden Doom is an automatic proc, it procs on Heart Strike. I don't have to activate it or anything. It just goes off on it's own. I'd consider that part of the same attack.
Thing is, my gear isn't good. I'm in T7 crap and still using a Titansteel weapon.
And those numbers for me are off of full hateful pvp gear... what's your point? Incase you don't get it, I just showed you how much more damage rogue does. And those are incredibly skewed numbers witha rogue in probably the worse possible situation to be dealing damage.
And that isn't even my dps gear.
Guess what I did tonight? I nailed my di*k to a burning building. Then I tried to sympathize with Zaph. Guess which hurt more?
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 1:40am by ThomasMagnum
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 1:40am by ThomasMagnum
Toasting 
in an epic thread 
AGAIN
P.S. I wish Therion would actually PvP. Oh, and I got my g5 in the mail today. Thanks Theo, it is the sh*t.[/sm
[sm]P.P.S. Oh yea, Zafire, You suck and stuff.
Edit: Who won the fight between Numbnuts and Teddy Roosevelt?
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 1:46am by Feyras
in an epic thread 
AGAIN
P.S. I wish Therion would actually PvP. Oh, and I got my g5 in the mail today. Thanks Theo, it is the sh*t.[/sm
[sm]P.P.S. Oh yea, Zafire, You suck and stuff.
Edit: Who won the fight between Numbnuts and Teddy Roosevelt?
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 1:46am by Feyras
It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer. -Albert Einstein
PSN tag: DavidChrist. If you add me, send me a message telling me who you are, please.
Feyras, ****** Superhero wrote:
I think I'm going to sig myself, just to be different.
PSN tag: DavidChrist. If you add me, send me a message telling me who you are, please.
His screenshot was from the graveyard.
you tell me.
you tell me.
Yea, when I originally posted, I didn't read all the way through the thread. I later read where he said they lost 5-0.
I don't like reading unless pop-ups are involved.
Did you see what I did there Zafire? I admitted I don't like to read stuff. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to any solution.
It is crazy. I read through this thread and thought, "Hmm. I should rate down this guy for being retarded, but then again he did make me laugh."
So, after a few seconds of debating to myself, I decided to rate you down. Only because if I rated up everything that made me laugh, all the retards on these forums would be gurus because I laugh at retards.
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 2:28am by Feyras
I don't like reading unless pop-ups are involved.
Did you see what I did there Zafire? I admitted I don't like to read stuff. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to any solution.
It is crazy. I read through this thread and thought, "Hmm. I should rate down this guy for being retarded, but then again he did make me laugh."
So, after a few seconds of debating to myself, I decided to rate you down. Only because if I rated up everything that made me laugh, all the retards on these forums would be gurus because I laugh at retards.
Edited, Apr 21st 2009 2:28am by Feyras
It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer. -Albert Einstein
PSN tag: DavidChrist. If you add me, send me a message telling me who you are, please.
Feyras, ****** Superhero wrote:
I think I'm going to sig myself, just to be different.
PSN tag: DavidChrist. If you add me, send me a message telling me who you are, please.
Rateup for logic on the rogue forums.
More defaults that AIG's loans in here.
I'm here all week.
I'm here all week.
Teddy! Spot check your ****! The t is way far away from the n.
ThomasMagnum wrote:
Teddy! Spot check your sh*t! The t is way far away from the n.
Are you speaking Cockney at me?
MYteddy wrote:
ThomasMagnum wrote:
Teddy! Spot check your sh*t! The t is way far away from the n.
Are you speaking Cockney at me?
Dude, he's from Hawaii.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
MYteddy wrote:
ThomasMagnum wrote:
Teddy! Spot check your sh*t! The t is way far away from the n.
Are you speaking Cockney at me?
Dude, he's from Hawaii.
Dude, obviously don't get it.
but just for you:
WAS IT PIDGEON THOMAS WERE YOU SPEAKING PIDGEON!?
Recent Visitors: 140
All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (140)
- Forums
- World of Warcraft
- Class Discussion
- Hate to do it........
© 2024 Fanbyte LLC