Why can't we all act like druids?Follow

To be honest, I wouldn't say the determining factor is being a Druid, it's just this community. If you've ever been to the Druid section of the mmo-champ forums it's the same "I'm so much better than you" retardation and crap.

This place has lost popularity since more big-name sites came out and got more popular. It's a good thing in the end, cause most elitists don't bother coming here, so a handful of us relay the relevant info from the o-boards and other forums without most of the QQ. :P

And really, don't pay too much attention to the titles. They don't mean that much and if you just post regularly, people will remember you for what you are.

But yeah, it sucks that people feel the need to one-up each other on every given occasion. Most help threads get blasted to hell with "l2play" and "use the f'ing search function moron!" and while in some cases it's true, there's always a nicer way to say it.

So... dunno if I had a point to make...
But all in all, that's why I keep coming back here.

We enforce this rather ruthlessly. That would be why. We encourage discussion and disagreement but when it stops being civil we get nasty.

Pack mentality and all that.

You might think that the people acting elitist are just pricks who get off to calling strangers names over the interwebs, but in reality, they just realize that the druids are nice, and that's our thing. You see, the people on the O-boards aren't elitist jerks. They are the freedom fighters against class homogenization! We must support the cause. Nitwit. ;)

Yeah you got that right. But it meant even more in Vanilla wow, when there wasn't really such a thing as a druid tank or a druid healer. We were called either brave or idiot for choosing the druid class ;)

I agree with Horse. This forum is good, and like forums, it does have a hierarchy that someone coming from the outside might not see. We stick together. And we call people on bullsh*t. For example:



I'm glad you enjoy our forums; we all work hard to make sure they're good. I'm sad to see you had to work in a QQ about your karma (first rule of karma is the same as the first rule of Fight Club) in an otherwise nice post. I'm also disappointed to see your ego woefully unaware that you do in fact fling mud, and then have the audacity to complain about it afterward. Were the other posters in that thread elitist? Somewhat. The exact comment you responded to was "If you can't do 2500 DPS in raid gear, you should go cry in a corner." Your response was TOTALLY out of proportion. I hate to say it, but... it's true. In tank gear and tank spec, self-buffed, if I switch to cat form I can pull around 2k DPS (presumably; I hit up a raid boss target dummy the other day and with no add-ons to help my timers I still managed 1850 sustained DPS).

You posted kindly here, which is nice. You also lied about your posts, and have a "Why me?" mentality when it comes to karma. No one is "nice and helpful" all the time, but none of us make the mistake of claiming to be.

I think the last season of arena was the huge fault for that (what's just ending, 5 right? So I mean 4). You know when trade was full of druid insults constantly, the O-board leeked with the tears of so many classes screaming "NERF 4 Dooid!" While the Crit Chickens and the Feral, and the PvE resto yelled back stop trying to nerf my class! We're not all playing 64/64/64 druids in arena.

Every lazy PvPer rerolled druid for the ezmode and that I believe ruined our flow, our green mojo, our furry comradeship. But have no fear all those un-druid like druid have all re-rolled the new OP classes. So things have been settling down. :3

I'm really glad Locke pointed out that you were the person who posted that in the general forums.

Your lose a lot of credibility to discuss immature or downright rude behavior after the way you responded. It's one thing to write an open insult, such as what Aethein did. Your response was a deliberate attack on him and only him, and it was completely uncalled for.

If you don't feel that a post fits a standard for the forums, rate them down and be quiet. That's what the system is there for. Not to rate people down because you disagree or think they're dumb. Not to camp someone because you think they're too rude. It's for the people who troll, flame, and are rude in that single post, and you feel the forums would be better if the majority of people are unable to see said post.

I agree that the WoW forums could use some of the general maturity and camaraderie that we show in here. I think the only reason it exists here is because no one here sinks to immature, personal insults when they feel they were disrespected. Things are discussed, not argued. I don't think I've ever seen karma mentioned in here at all until now, probably another big sign about the way this class community functions.

No one here is better than anyone else, and no one acts like it, be it through mocking someone elses performance or throwing out personal attacks on another's "nerdrage" (for lack of a better term). Maybe it's because we're generally not an easy class to play, so we understand people having difficulty in the game, and recall that same situation. Regardless, I'd like to keep the forums the way they are.

The only way you're going to see any change is if you actually practice what you preach.

I can only say i am not interested in if i get rated up or down and have seen a few people suddenly get to be a Sage with just a few posts only to come crashing back down because of the way karma works , personally i would not worry about it , just say what you think is right and let the karma work its magic as fate will always kick you if you expect to much.

Well, I am a lurker as well. I don't post much on these forums because I have issues with my spelling and grammar. It has gotten better since I started using Fire Fox, but that just takes care of the spelling part lol.

These forums have kind of an old boy's club. You really have to pay your dues before you are accepted. However, please do not take people on this site too serious. Their is a lot of useful information on the site, but you still have to dig through the crap.

I browse many forums for different information about WoW. Allakhazam's posters are in general a nice group of fellas and ladies, but not on the cutting edge of forums. All you need to do is look at the guides at the top of the class forums to see how far behind we are. Am I helping the situation out by making a guide of my own? No. I don't know a thing about writing them. Also, I doubt that I have the knowledge necessary for one.

Topics pertaining to the game, class, and other aspects are being discussed in these forums just as they are in the WoW forums. Just as much name calling, epeen measuring, and L2play nub goes on here as anywhere else on the internet. However, it would seem that posters on this site do not use "l33t speak" and prefer proper English. This tends to lead to and air of superiority by some posters, which I personally find a tad distasteful.

How does this all applies to the druid forums? Beats the crap outta me. I am a tree, leaf me be.....:)

Not sure what you mean by "not on the cutting edge" either.

Sure, the guide is outdated. But frankly, changes occur too often to maintain a stable, reliable guide in my opinion. It's not like such guides prevent people from asking questions anyway. Even when that guide was up to date, people would create new threads about recycled info or the infamous "rate my build" threads.

And yeah, there'll always be a few people posting opinions as if they were facts, or even debatable. You'll find that kinda of misleading info in any forums. Here, at least, people will usually be able to point it out without completely lacking respect.

But even though extensive maths aren't done here, many regular posters are aware of the maths results and can convey the info to the rest of the people here who don't like browsing forums such as EJ.

Overall I don't think we're falling behind, it's just less "in your face" than other, most elitist-oriented forums.

I believe you mean 'Some' of us. :P

I'm sorry, but I have to point out that the above statement is an oxymoron.


Regarding kharma and ratings...how important is it to you and why do you care?

I mean that in a serious way.

Someone could post "I love jellybeans" and get rated up and the poster becomes a Guru because a bunch of people like jellybeans. Does the post add anything substantively to the forums or to WoW knowledge? No. Does the Guru title really mean anything, in this case? Probably not.

Alternatively, someone could post an opinion on why they think Bards (hehe) are overpowered. The post may include empirical evidence to support the opinion, be very well-written, and produce a lot of meaningful discussion about the topic. But, because it's somewhat controversial, or some people don't agree with the opinion, or Bard fanboys gang up, the poster gets rated down to default. Poster stays a Scholar. Does this mean the poster contributes less substance than the jellybean poster? No.

So, basically what I'm saying is...don't let the ratings and status title effect what you post. There are many different reasons for rate-ups and rate-downs, some of which have nothing to do with the quality or substance of a post. If have an opinion and want to express it, then go ahead. Some people will agree, some won't. The proportions (and ratings) may vary. Some people will rate people up for posting about jellybeans. Some people will nuke people that post about jellybeans. But, so what? Are you more concerned about a rating and a title, or are you interested in stating your opinion? However, if you post something that you know may very well not be popular or is insulting to someone, then don't complain about the consequences. But, if you have something to say, say it. Don't worry about your kharma/title.

Or, if you do care about your kharma/title, then be very careful about what you post. Even then, people may still rate you down. It's just the way it works.

Like LockeColeMA said, "The first rule of the Kharma Club..."

Edited, Apr 8th 2009 1:07pm by azwing

^^^^^^^^ This!!!!