Do my eyes deceive me?Follow

Or am I seeing so many Prot Pallies with spell power on their weapons? I'm not talking undergeared and no idea tanks either (seen respected tanks with full T7.5 sporting SP enchants on their weapons).

I subscribe to the gear does not maketh the player philosophy but am I missing something here?

I found this in the EJ Pally tanking thread:



/headscratch

A 20 Str weapon enchant is 50 AP, and 16-17 BV. 63 SP is 63 SP. All attacks and spells a prot pally will do scale equally from AP and SP except two. All but Hammer of the Righteous and Shield of Righteousness will get more of a bonus from 63 SP than 20 STR. I'd say it comes out close enough between those two.

But when the new enchants come out, we shouldn't see too many people with either of those.

Enchant Weapon - Blade Ward *New Enchant* - Permanently enchants a weapon to sometimes grant Blade Warding when striking an enemy. Blade Warding increases your parry rating by 200 and inflicts 600 to 800 damage on your next parry. Effect can stack up to 5 times and lasts 10 sec. This enchantment requires the wielder is at least level 75.

Enchant Weapon - Blood Draining *New* - Permanently enchants your weapon to sometimes grant Blood Reserve when striking an enemy or inflicting damage with bleed attacks. When you fall below 35% health, Blood Reserve restores 1750 to 2250 health. This enchantment requires the wielder is at least level 75.

I'd say it's more the latter. While it's sometimes humbling to participate in a quality forum (i.e. not the o-boards), we tend to forget that everyone reading stuff here is, just by virtue of reading stuff here, among the best-informed people in the world (of warcraft), even if not an elite theorycrafter.

A lot of players, even raiders, are still going by what they "know" is the best way - i.e. what used to be the best way - stack SP/MP5 and use FoL, or use a caster sword with SP enchant for tanking. They see that the gear being thrown their way is a little different in WotLK, but they have never had the underlying design changes emphasized to them, so they're still grasping toward the new mechanics.

Not to mention that it's a tough interpersonal communications problem to try to explain to a successful, veteran tank - as someone with a different spec who has never tanked in a raid, much less someone of a different class - that, based on what I read on the internet, I can give him advice that contradicts what his experience tells him is true.

I haven't seen any prot pallys with sp enchants on their tanking wpns, but I do have an AoE set that includes a sp wpn with a sp enchant along with the libram that increases consecration dam as that is our only tool for picking up grps larger than 4. Like a lot of the gear we acquire it can be very situational, I basically only use that set for add tanking on Sarth and trash tanking in spider wing. But if that's all your guild has you doing, trash/add tanking, sp wpn+sp enchant has its advantages.

There's a really nice thread on Maintankadin that compares the dps/tps of the current enchants if you want to try and point these prot pallys to some info.

It is my current belief - though PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong - that Consecration, Excorcism, Holy Wrath, (and possibly seal of vengeance)scale with spell-power, not attack power. This seems to me to suggest that spell-power is not an altogether wasted stat, and is one that a tankadin would want a little bit of. Not much, just a little bit.

As an aside, if I really am mistake and SP is a wasted stat... does this make Touched By The Light (sp equal to 30% of stamina) a wasted talent?

Kinda off-topic, but the other day I saw a level 76 death knight with three pieces of blue +intellect gear.

Just because the runic power bar is blue, doesn't mean it's related to mana...

That's very helpful, thank you. I didn't realise Consecration scaled with AP too. Tbh, I'm still doubtful, but a few experiments on (unwilling) Deeprun Rats should sort that one out...

Meanwhile, I did think that Touched by the Light was worth it. It was merely one possible interpretation of our collective disdain for spell-power that I wished to clarify.

So, yeah... what was the final word on this? Is spell power bonus worth it or not? Its like a game of tennis in here... back and forth, back and forth.

I think the arguement was left at unless your planning on tanking huge amounts of mobs, whereby consecration was the only thing holding some of those mobs to you then use a tanking weapon with either avoidance (agility/mongoose) or threat (BC-Potency strength enchant) is the way to go.

Until the new enchants come out with Ulduur its probably best to stick with those.



Edited for speeling =P

Edited, Apr 12th 2009 2:38am by arthoriuss