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#15727 May 20 2012 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord Theophany wrote:
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If wine wasn't gross as all hell, I'd think about trying that. And you can't mix anything other than ice with Whiskey, otherwise your just a heathen.

Maybe if you're an idiot and don't know how to pick a good wine. Smiley: oyvey

I'm 20, of course I don't know how to pick a good wineSmiley: grin. That said, I haven't even tried wine since I was about 18, and I decided I'd rather drink whiskey.

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Ice in whiskey is blasphemy, though.

If the water used in ice is sourced from the same place as the whiskey, it isn't blasphemy. Although, that's really hard to do when you drink Scotch and live in Canada. I've mostly only drunk Rum since I've been in Canada, since booze is insanely expensive here.
#15728 May 20 2012 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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You're weird. Cheese is delicious.

And now I really want some Brie. Ooooh, with grapes. Or Fig. Mmmmm.
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#15729 May 20 2012 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Cheese tastes like smelly feet. It is beyond my comprehension why anyone would want to willingly ingest something that foul.

The only reason I eat it as a condiment is because it's easier/faster to not order without cheese, and the synthesized kind used in most of that food doesn't really taste of anything anyway.

I guess it's an acquired taste. I used to eat it as a kid, but I can't even imagine why I'd want to do that now. I hated coffee as a kid, though, but now I've found that it tastes like win and awesome.
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#15730 May 20 2012 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
Obligatory Scotch isn't whiskey.

That said, I don't like being tipsy, I like being drunk even less, and I save money this way. Plus, hey, Islam means free pakoras. Ahmadiyya won't... hmm, decisions. Smiley: tongue

The doxy is making me kinda tired (or that might be visiting random people's houses all day) and also suppressing my appetite. At least I hope it's the doxy doing that and not the excitement because that'd mean it's a free diet. Yay.
#15731 May 20 2012 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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Whiskey and cheese and wine are all delicious. Maybe not all at once though.

Cheese and wine do pair nicely though.

Cheap whiskey does often call for a mixer. Good whiskey with a single ice cube is super A+.
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#15732 May 20 2012 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
Obligatory Scotch isn't whiskey.


I'm turning Canadian Smiley: frown
#15733 May 20 2012 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
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Grilled cheese sammiches and tomato soup is, by far, the ultimate lunch combination.
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#15734 May 20 2012 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
Personal preferences vary. That's what makes them personal. I don't like cheese, for example, and the quality has nothing to do with it.

Ice in whiskey is blasphemy, though.

You're weird. Cheese is delicious. I could eat cheese all day. Literally.

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Overlord Theophany wrote:
Sgriob wrote:
If wine wasn't gross as all hell, I'd think about trying that. And you can't mix anything other than ice with Whiskey, otherwise your just a heathen.

Maybe if you're an idiot and don't know how to pick a good wine. Smiley: oyvey

I'm 20, of course I don't know how to pick a good wineSmiley: grin. That said, I haven't even tried wine since I was about 18, and I decided I'd rather drink whiskey.

I knew good wines when I was like 12. Smiley: tongue

That said, my mom is crazy about wine, so of course I know a lot about it.

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Grilled cheese sammiches and tomato soup is, by far, the ultimate lunch meal combination.

THIS.

Any meal is better when it's grilled cheese and tomato soup (try adding bacon to the grilled cheese to really blow your mind).
#15735 May 20 2012 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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I feel left out. I've never had a grilled cheese sammich. Although ,I can vouch for tomato soup being awesome, only if it's Heinz. Strangely, even though it's out a tin, I still prefer it to home made soup. Maybe it's cause I grew up having it when I was ill, and it always made me feel better.

Also: Aeth, are you a fan of Meshuggah? I can't remember if I've asked you that before.
#15736 May 20 2012 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
You do know there are different types of wine right Rio? Red, white, and rose (aka pink). I love me a good white or rose wine, but reds I'm a lot more picky about. They have a tendency to be too bitter for my tastes.

And how the hell have you never had a grilled cheese sandwich? Go make yourself one, like now.
#15737 May 20 2012 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
Yiddish word, what?

And haha. I'm way too amused by the fact that on Wednesday, I will be in a situation where German me is in Pakistan and my Pakistani BF is in Germany. I've had the same with a British one before, but this is far more awesome.
#15738 May 20 2012 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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You do know there are different types of wine right Rio? Red, white, and rose (aka pink). I love me a good white or rose wine, but reds I'm a lot more picky about. They have a tendency to be too bitter for my tastes.

And how the hell have you never had a grilled cheese sandwich? Go make yourself one, like now.


I dunno, to me, all red wine tastes the same, and all white wine tastes the same. Never tried Rose. That's why I like whisky, It all tastes different, even when your looking at the stuff from the same distillery but different ages and stuff. I remember trying a 25 and 10 year old Glenmorangie. The 25 year old blew me away, and the 10 year old was nice to just sit and drink. I was 17 at the time, so I was absolutely hammered after a quarter bottle.
#15739 May 20 2012 at 10:31 PM Rating: Good
You probably just haven't exposed yourself to enough different types then. A white zinfandel tastes very different from say, a riesling or a chardonnay. And I don't even know that much about wine.
#15740 May 20 2012 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
People who say they don't like cheese generally don't like strong cheeses. Find a spreadable Brie or some other cheese with not too strong of a taste, and it's pretty awesome.

It's the overwhelming, in-your-face cheeses that people try and tend to be put off from.
#15741 May 20 2012 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
You do know there are different types of wine right Rio? Red, white, and rose (aka pink). I love me a good white or rose wine, but reds I'm a lot more picky about. They have a tendency to be too bitter for my tastes.

And how the hell have you never had a grilled cheese sandwich? Go make yourself one, like now.

Actually, if you're talking about wines, there are a bunch of different types. Red, white, and rosé is a very simplistic approach (and technically you should also add port), but even within each of the three varietals you've named, you're going to favor some over others. For instance, a cab is vastly different in most cases to a pinot noir. They will have a completely different body, and they will open differently (a cab should always sit open for ~20 minutes so it can aerate, where a pinot noir will be drinkable almost immediately).

Under the heading of white wine you'll also have desert wines, champagne, sparkling wine, etc.

It's a bit too simplistic to say that you want red wine, because while some red wine will really enhance the flavor of a steak, some will dull the flavors.

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I dunno, to me, all red wine tastes the same, and all white wine tastes the same. Never tried Rose. That's why I like whisky, It all tastes different, even when your looking at the stuff from the same distillery but different ages and stuff. I remember trying a 25 and 10 year old Glenmorangie. The 25 year old blew me away, and the 10 year old was nice to just sit and drink. I was 17 at the time, so I was absolutely hammered after a quarter bottle.

Trust me, I could show you the difference between a good wine and a bad wine. My first bottle was a bottle of Sea Smoke (pretty tough to find and moderately expensive, can go for ~$80 a bottle if you're lucky but in restaurants will be $300+), and since then I've tried to buy as much wine as I can to try everything. I've had amazing bottles at $7 a bottle, and I've had ****** wines at $30 a bottle.

The thing is even from year to year at the same winery the same exact wine will taste differently because of how the grapes grow (thus why some years are much more expensive than others). Similar to aging whisky (or scotch, etc), the weather and the quality of the soil the grapes are grown in will have a massive affect on the wine.

I've been learning about wine since I was 12 and tasting since my teen years, and at 27 I still am overwhelmed and happy with how much I have left to learn about wine.

If it's not your kind of thing, fine, but don't say that you can't taste the difference between reds when you can differentiate between one whisky and another (it's incredibly easy).

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You probably just haven't exposed yourself to enough different types then. A white zinfandel tastes very different from say, a riesling or a chardonnay. And I don't even know that much about wine.

Yes, exactly. If you need some advice about what to buy, that's easy and readily available. There are a lot of good wines out there that don't cost an arm and a leg (my average bottle is about $15-20).

Grab a bottle of cabernet and a bottle of pinot noir and taste each. They're worlds apart. A decent pinot noir is going to be smooth; a decent cab is going to be more tart and unpleasant to someone that doesn't drink wine regularly.
#15742 May 21 2012 at 12:04 AM Rating: Good
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I'd go try them right now, if I was able to drink at the moment (A Scotsman that doesn't drink, HA!). I think I'll just leave drinking wine until I'm a little bit older. Whisky makes me feel like I'm at home (in Scotland) sitting in my neighbours dining room drinking a quarter bottle after having a really good meal, and right now, I'm doing everything I can to hold onto the fact that I'm Scottish.
#15743 May 21 2012 at 12:10 AM Rating: Good
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I like reds more than whites by far with wines, with Beaujolais being my favorite variety.

A good Riesling I will drink but I prefer to stay away from whites.
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#15744 May 21 2012 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, see. i know nothing about wine compared to Theo lol. Hell, you'd probably educate my boyfriend pretty well. He worked in an Italian restaurant with a wine bar for six months, and he knows WAY more than I do. I know you're supposed to drink different types of wines in different glasses, but I couldn't tell you which is which.
#15745 May 21 2012 at 12:24 AM Rating: Good
Also, I got the sudden urge to make something crafty at 11pm at night. My brain is weird. Specifically, I want to either do needlepoint or make myself a corset. neither of which I can really do at the moment. Bah.
#15746 May 21 2012 at 2:02 AM Rating: Good
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Make a corset. Obvious answer is obvious.
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#15747 May 21 2012 at 2:28 AM Rating: Good
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Also, I got the sudden urge to make something crafty at 11pm at night. My brain is weird. Specifically, I want to either do needlepoint or make myself a corset. neither of which I can really do at the moment. Bah.


One of my friends from highschool did this. (I guess I have to tag this as NSFW language?)
#15748 May 21 2012 at 2:49 AM Rating: Good
Æth's mum had a nice white whine when I was at her house. I haven't ever drunk a red that I liked at all. I did once need white wine to make a sauce and we only had this really expensive one that was brought back from France. That was also nice.

Rio:
1. Buckfast Smiley: lol
2. As someone who lives in Scotland, let me just say that you're still one of the most Scottish people I've ever met.
#15749 May 21 2012 at 3:33 AM Rating: Good
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Also: Aeth, are you a fan of Meshuggah? I can't remember if I've asked you that before.
I don't know if you've asked but not really. I can appreciate the skill but I prefer the sludge/doom kind of heaviness over the very technical stuff. (With Death being an obvious example because how could anyone not love Death?)
Meshuggah is good but their music just doesn't do it for me although I can't say why exactly.

Overlord Theophany wrote:
If it's not your kind of thing, fine, but don't say that you can't taste the difference between reds when you can differentiate between one whisky and another (it's incredibly easy).
I can easily tell the difference between wines, but I'm not really good at naming the different smells and tastes like I can with beer, wine still mostly just taste like wine to me and I can usually tell what about it that makes me like or dislike it but I can't pinpoint flavours like I can with beer. I just haven't drank that much wine so I can imagine that someone who has had very little wine it all tastes more or less the same, especially if they haven't had any good wines.

Oddly enough I can pretty much do the tasting thing with whiskey yet I have had very little good whiskey in my life. And staying away from that too, my wallet cannot deal with an obsession for whiskey.

Also also, cheap sweet white wine is absolutely disgusting. It's like the girl version of a case of super cheap beer to get drunk off of.

PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Also, I got the sudden urge to make something crafty at 11pm at night. My brain is weird. Specifically, I want to either do needlepoint or make myself a corset. neither of which I can really do at the moment. Bah.
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Make a corset. Obvious answer is obvious.
What Horsey said.

Kalivha wrote:
Æth's mum had a nice white whine when I was at her house. I haven't ever drunk a red that I liked at all. I did once need white wine to make a sauce and we only had this really expensive one that was brought back from France. That was also nice.

Rio:
1. Buckfast Smiley: lol
2. As someone who lives in Scotland, let me just say that you're still one of the most Scottish people I've ever met.
My mom is pretty crazy about wine too so she usually has pretty good wine. And wine is so much cheaper in France, it's kind of silly.

And I now want to see a pic of Rio in all traditional Scottish clothing. That'd be cool. Smiley: grin
#15750 May 21 2012 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Sgriob wrote:
I'd go try them right now, if I was able to drink at the moment (A Scotsman that doesn't drink, HA!). I think I'll just leave drinking wine until I'm a little bit older. Whisky makes me feel like I'm at home (in Scotland) sitting in my neighbours dining room drinking a quarter bottle after having a really good meal, and right now, I'm doing everything I can to hold onto the fact that I'm Scottish.

That's understandable. I wasn't trying to force my opinion on anyone, just saying that while people that spend $100k+ on a bottle of wine are crazy, a really good bottle ($300ish) on a special occasion (Christmas, birthday, anniversary, etc) is really nice. Similar to how I'm going to get my best friend a really nice bottle of whisky when his first kid is born in ~5 months.

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I like reds more than whites by far with wines, with Beaujolais being my favorite variety.

A good Riesling I will drink but I prefer to stay away from whites.

Chateau Ste Michelle makes a pretty amazing Riesling that's pretty affordable (it's $7/bottle here, but I live 5 minutes from the main location, mileage may vary).

Beaujolais from what I've heard is a really nice red similar to pinot noir (the grape is a hybrid of the pinot noir grape and a white wine grape) in that it's easy to drink; I've not had the chance to try any as most of what I get is from the west coast, New Zealand, and south america. Which is really funny, since France is basically the epicenter of wine for a lot of people (not me).

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Yeah, see. i know nothing about wine compared to Theo lol. Hell, you'd probably educate my boyfriend pretty well. He worked in an Italian restaurant with a wine bar for six months, and he knows WAY more than I do. I know you're supposed to drink different types of wines in different glasses, but I couldn't tell you which is which.

It's basically all about research and drinking. I enjoy drinking wine and socializing, and like everything I do, I like to do research so I'm at least passably knowledgeable. That and my mom can talk about wine for years if given the opportunity, and I hang out with her a lot when I'm at home (free wine helps!).

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Æth's mum had a nice white whine when I was at her house. I haven't ever drunk a red that I liked at all. I did once need white wine to make a sauce and we only had this really expensive one that was brought back from France. That was also nice.

Define expensive and French for me, because expensive French wine to me is $300-500+ a bottle. Smiley: tongue

Cooking is what I use crappy wine for after I've tried it.

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Overlord Theophany wrote:
If it's not your kind of thing, fine, but don't say that you can't taste the difference between reds when you can differentiate between one whisky and another (it's incredibly easy).
I can easily tell the difference between wines, but I'm not really good at naming the different smells and tastes like I can with beer, wine still mostly just taste like wine to me and I can usually tell what about it that makes me like or dislike it but I can't pinpoint flavours like I can with beer. I just haven't drank that much wine so I can imagine that someone who has had very little wine it all tastes more or less the same, especially if they haven't had any good wines.

Oddly enough I can pretty much do the tasting thing with whiskey yet I have had very little good whiskey in my life. And staying away from that too, my wallet cannot deal with an obsession for whiskey.

Also also, cheap sweet white wine is absolutely disgusting. It's like the girl version of a case of super cheap beer to get drunk off of.

I'm the exact opposite of you, then. I can't really taste individual flavors in beer (unless it's blatantly obvious) but I can in wine.

And yes, I agree with you, though some cheap sweet wines are nice, but they generally have to be dry (brut in the case of champagne/sparkling wine) for me to enjoy them. Sweet wines are a good way for young people to start drinking wine, though, since it's basically like drinkable candy.
#15751 May 21 2012 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Define expensive and French for me, because expensive French wine to me is $300-500+ a bottle. Smiley: tongue

Cooking is what I use crappy wine for after I've tried it.


I honestly have no idea. The people I lived with then usually stock up loads of wine every time they go (once a year) that is around $50/bottle and that one was more expensive than that. IIRC it was Sauvignon? I have no idea about this kinda stuff.

I just didn't have enough money to buy my own cooking wine, haha, and I was cooking for them so they let me use it.

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Sweet wines are kinda disgusting, imo.
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