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#14777 Apr 23 2012 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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Specifically 160 year old beer that was made for journeys into the arctic (Expeditions in 1852 and 1875 to be precise). The desk in the oval office is also supposedly made from wood from one of the ships that carried this beer.
#14778 Apr 23 2012 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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I'm sure that's what they said to sell it for more.
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#14779 Apr 23 2012 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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160-year-old beer?

I don't even want to think about how that'll taste. Yuck.
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#14780 Apr 23 2012 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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It's a barleywine style ale with originally an ABV of 12%, there's a review of a tasting from the 1875 batch in the ebay link as well.
When kept under the right conditions, beer ages well. Especially strong ales like barleywines, imperial stouts and quads. Sours also tend to age well. Really only pilsener and hoppy beers go bad with age and of course when kept in sunlight or high temperatures the beer goes bad. The sunlight thing is also why beer tends to be bottled in brown bottles and why **** like Heineken or especially Corona sucks so much, they let in so much UV light that by the time you're drinking it the beer is skunked.
#14781 Apr 23 2012 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hymn of the Fayth is still my favorite FF song. I sing/hum/whistle it all the time... This video has each version, but I'm linking to Bahamut.


And it's in my head again... Smiley: tongue

I just escaped Bevelle last night. Smiley: lol
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#14782 Apr 23 2012 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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The Fresh Prince of Bevelle?
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#14783 Apr 23 2012 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Pfft. Heck no.

Nothing is fresh around there. Bunch of crazy old dead people. Think they can run the world.

Well I'll show them! Smiley: mad
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#14784 Apr 23 2012 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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いえゆい
のぼめの
れんみり
よじゅよご
はさてかなえ
くたまえ

Smiley: smile
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#14785 Apr 23 2012 at 10:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ahhh google translate, where would I be without you and your zany ability to parse words?

Smiley: lol

Yui said
The second Novo
Ren mm
Yogo Yoju
Well Ding
Do bestow

Yui said of the book first
We awarded our millimeter-Ren
Do bestow grant is now

We award our first pot of goodwill mm Yui bestow Kanae Do Well said



Edited, Apr 23rd 2012 10:11am by someproteinguy
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#14786 Apr 23 2012 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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私はéšã«é–¢ã—てあるある好む。
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#14787 Apr 23 2012 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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I prefer a certain respect to certain fish.
#14788 Apr 23 2012 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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What's with the Japanese all of a sudden?
#14789 Apr 23 2012 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Ahhh google translate, where would I be without you and your zany ability to parse words?

Smiley: lol

Yui said
The second Novo
Ren mm
Yogo Yoju
Well Ding
Do bestow

Yui said of the book first
We awarded our millimeter-Ren
Do bestow grant is now

We award our first pot of goodwill mm Yui bestow Kanae Do Well said


The song is actually set up as something of a puzzle (that I only know from the FF wiki).

い の れ よ 
え ぼ ん ず 
ゆ め み よ 
い の り こ

はてな
さかえ
(Reverse these two lines)
く
た ま え

You get,
いのれえ、えぼんじゅ
ゆめみこ、えいのりこ
はてなく
さかえたまえ

Translation of that poem, courtesy of the wiki, is:
"Pray to Yu Yevon
Dream, Fayth
Forever and Ever
Grant Us Prosperity"

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私はéšã«é–¢ã—てあるある好む。


Watashi wa sakana ni kanji I know I should remember te aru aru sumu.

Okay, I didn't know that conjugation of "To like", so konomu.

And the kanji I forgot is seki, gate (I think I learned it as being used for door too?), which I should have remembered.

Didn't know aruaru meant that.

Put it all together... And I think you're being very, very dirty.

[EDIT]
私は= Watashi ha (wa) = I (am the subject of the statment)
éšã«= Sakana ni = Fish with a particle that denotes location or destination of an object or person.
関して = seki ***** = Gate with a word with different meanings depending on what the word follows (which is likely what is ******** up the auto-translate). In this case, I think its meaning is "by" as in "by <insert person>", with the person being the speaker.
あるある = aruaru = an exclamation of emphasis with many different meanings from "Of course" to "Not necessary".
好む = konomu = a conjugation of the verb "to like", which can mean that or "to prefer"

So I'm lost. The best I can guess is that he's making a comment about his preference for fish gates or something.

Edited, Apr 23rd 2012 3:25pm by idiggory
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#14790 Apr 23 2012 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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"Babelfish" doesn't translate well with autotranslaters, so I had to improvise. Smiley: laugh
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#14791 Apr 23 2012 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:

The song is actually set up as something of a puzzle (that I only know from the FF wiki).


So not only is it in a foreign language, but it's a puzzle in a foreign language? Oh the complications. Smiley: frown

On another note that no one will care about:

WHY ARE JOURNALS MAKING PEOPLE PUT IMPORTANT METHODS DETAILS IN SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS? DON'T THEY KNOW THAT MAKES IT REALLY REALLY HARD TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON?!!

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yeah... Smiley: rolleyes


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#14792 Apr 23 2012 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
WHY ARE JOURNALS MAKING PEOPLE PUT IMPORTANT METHODS DETAILS IN SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS? DON'T THEY KNOW THAT MAKES IT REALLY REALLY HARD TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON?!!

Smiley: motz

yeah... Smiley: rolleyes
I need context/explanation in layman terms to understand why you're angry here... Help me out. Smiley: tongue
#14793 Apr 23 2012 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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"Dear Die-ary, today I stuffed some dolls full of dead rats I put in the blender. I'm wondering if, maybe, there really is something wrong with me."
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#14794 Apr 23 2012 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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Dear sweet baby jesus, please, for the love of all things good and pure, please get logic and critical thinking into high schools as a required, first year course.

In your holy name, l'chiam.


#14795 Apr 23 2012 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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"Dear Die-ary, today I stuffed some dolls full of dead rats I put in the blender. I'm wondering if, maybe, there really is something wrong with me."
This makes me think of Alice Cooper's Welcome To My Nightmare.

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#14796 Apr 23 2012 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
WHY ARE JOURNALS MAKING PEOPLE PUT IMPORTANT METHODS DETAILS IN SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS? DON'T THEY KNOW THAT MAKES IT REALLY REALLY HARD TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON?!!

Smiley: motz

yeah... Smiley: rolleyes
I need context/explanation in layman terms to understand why you're angry here... Help me out. Smiley: tongue


I can relate, and the problem is vastly less egregious for someone who works with history articles.

Essentially, you're reading the journal/article/report because you are trying to evaluate an argument. To do that, particularly in the realm of science, they need to be clear and explicit about every important bit of info.

So suppose Author A makes an argument that the French Revolution wasn't a bourgeois revolution, and one of their premises is "Use the argument put forth by Doyle in <insert title>". Well, that's kinda important, and you shouldn't need to read a whole additional book to be able to engage with an article that only uses it as a part. They should spell out what that article is, then offer the original source itself as supplemental info. That overall argument could be potentially solid, since modern scholarship has actually lent a ton of support against the traditional interpretation of the war, but it's not going to be convincing if a whole part is just missing.
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#14797 Apr 23 2012 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Dear sweet baby jesus, please, for the love of all things good and pure, please get logic and critical thinking into high schools as a required, first year course.

In your holy name, l'chiam.




That's actually something I want to do as a teacher. Well, the critical thinking part. I'll admit, I haven't taken a logic course. I probably should do that at some point.
#14798 Apr 23 2012 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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That would be the logical course of action, yes.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
WHY ARE JOURNALS MAKING PEOPLE PUT IMPORTANT METHODS DETAILS IN SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS? DON'T THEY KNOW THAT MAKES IT REALLY REALLY HARD TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON?!!

Smiley: motz

yeah... Smiley: rolleyes
I need context/explanation in layman terms to understand why you're angry here... Help me out. Smiley: tongue


The methods section of a paper usually contains all of the details of how a researcher did an experiment. What equipment, procedures, settings, software, etc. they used. The idea is they're supposed to give you enough information to be able to repeat the experiment in your lab. More recently though, this internet thing came around, and compared to the cost of the printed word putting something on the internet is pretty darn cheap.

So more cost-conscious journals have been shrinking the length of papers and moving details that used to be included in that section to 'online-only'. So you'll have a very brief description of what was done and then if you want more detail you'll have to go online and download additional files. Which is great unless you're trying to look at some of those details, then it just becomes a big waste of time. Add in the fact the files are usually an unorganized mess, and yeah you get the idea. It's kind of annoying when you can't get all the information you need just from the paper itself.

Anyway, I'm trying to see if some of the data we have lying around the lab is good enough to squeeze a publication out of. Which means I need to see if anyone has done something like this before. Which means I need to read and compare methods sections from similar projects.

Which means I get all grumpy. Smiley: frown
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#14800 Apr 23 2012 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
TherionSaysWhat wrote:
Dear sweet baby jesus, please, for the love of all things good and pure, please get logic and critical thinking into high schools as a required, first year course.

In your holy name, l'chiam.




That's actually something I want to do as a teacher. Well, the critical thinking part. I'll admit, I haven't taken a logic course. I probably should do that at some point.


Srsly.

The logic classes I took in college as part of the philosophy minor were some of the few that actually have use in my everyday life still.
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#14801 Apr 23 2012 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Anyway, I'm trying to see if some of the data we have lying around the lab is good enough to squeeze a publication out of. Which means I need to see if anyone has done something like this before. Which means I need to read and compare methods sections from similar projects.

Which means I get all grumpy. Smiley: frown
Aww, that sucks. Smiley: frown

Also, aren't scientific journals ridiculously expensive anyway? So wouldn't the cost efficiency part be a mostly moot argument even with the low amounts printed?
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