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#14152 Mar 28 2012 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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Little kids are awesome. Smiley: grin
They're great once they start being little people instead of little babies.
I'm a fan of the phase where they can sleep thru the night, but haven't learned to crawl yet.
I like that mine is becoming quite the independent little creature, but not so fond of how easy she finds it to manipulate her father into whatever she pretty much wants. I guess daddy didn't exactly dissuade the behavior when taking her to work, and she telling soldiers to drop and daddy suggesting it was in said soldier's best interest to comply to the child's demands.
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#14153 Mar 28 2012 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
I hate kids. Smiley: glare
#14154 Mar 28 2012 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
I hate kids. Smiley: glare
That's just because you still are one.
#14155 Mar 28 2012 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
I may be young, but I'm certainly not an annoying four year old or anything.
#14156 Mar 28 2012 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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True, you're just as annoying and not half as cute.

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 8:01pm by Aethien
#14157 Mar 28 2012 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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The only child I like is my niece, and that's because I'm obligated to. :P
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#14158 Mar 28 2012 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Opinion always changes once you have one of your own.
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#14159 Mar 28 2012 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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Opinion always changes once you have one of your own.
Honestly, I very much hope I won't have to wait a long time for that to happen. Poopy diapers be damned, I'd love to start a family.


Edit: ALSO HAI RIO, I SEE YOU LURKING THERE!
Have you heard the new Lamb Of God album yet?

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 8:15pm by Aethien
#14160 Mar 28 2012 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kids are so much fun. Sure they can be a pain in the *** at times, but they can also be awesome.
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#14161 Mar 28 2012 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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ITT: Olde Druids With Kids.
#14162 Mar 28 2012 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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What the hell is a druid?
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#14163 Mar 28 2012 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
Aeth, thanks for the tip. My dad was photographer for years throughout highschool and the Navy, eventually opening up his own photolab way back when. I grew up learning manuel photography and development. Digital definitely makes things nice and easy, but seeing the prints come to life in a darkroom, makes it exciting (time consuming but exciting lol).

If I REALLY wanted to go high end with the DSLRs, I could spend the few thousand on it, but I may just start out with the good, cheaper brands like a Nikon or Canon's Rebel. $500-$700 for them isn't too bad compared to others I've seen and the price those cameras used to be when DSLR first came out. Plus, I've gotten the chance to try out the Rebel, and it works pretty well. Haven't had the opportunity with the lower priced Nikons, but trying them out in the store, they seem to be just as good too.
#14164 Mar 28 2012 at 12:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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What the hell is a druid?


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#14165 Mar 28 2012 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
True, you're just as annoying and not half as cute.


And proud of it!

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Opinion always changes once you have one of your own.


I know, and I fully expect that. Hell, we are essentially hardwired to feel that way as soon as we have our own. But seeing my little brother and sister, who are now six year old twins, grow up made me realize that I really, really don't want kids for a long time.

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 3:05pm by IDrownFish
#14166 Mar 28 2012 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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If your dad shot with Nikon, get a Nikon body because you can use all his glass (If he still has it) Nikon never changed their fitting so it all still works, unlike Canon who've changed two or three times.
#14167 Mar 28 2012 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have a Canon T1i and am very happy with it. The T2i and T3i look like decent upgrades as well.

I recommend you get something like an 18-200 lens. The convenience and flexibility is worth a lot.

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 2:23pm by Xsarus
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#14168 Mar 28 2012 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
He had a Canon, luckily though, I've been able to use his flash, but it has unfortunately FINALLY died. The wiring inside has just gotten bad that it kept over heating.

I'll definitely have a look at the upgraded version. The T3i looks nice. I know that places like Amazon or Target is selling it for about $600-700 with the 18-55 mm lens. I'd definitely want to get a different one as well eventually once I do get a better camera.
#14169 Mar 28 2012 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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I keep putting in paperwork to supply about getting a Cannon, but I keep getting turned down. Smiley: frown
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#14170 Mar 28 2012 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I have a Canon T1i and am very happy with it. The T2i and T3i look like decent upgrades as well.

I recommend you get something like an 18-200 lens. The convenience and flexibility is worth a lot.

I disagree, mostly because the large zoom (10x and a bit) comes at the cost of quality and I personally absolutely hate working with glass with a variable aperture.
I have barely touched my 18-105mm kitlens since I've gotten my 17-50mm f2.8, the 55mm I lost is nowhere near as valuable to me as the constant f2.8 and improved quality.
And I'm very seriously considering getting either the Nikkor 50mm f1.4 or a second hand Carl Zeiss 50mm f1.4, to get that extra stop of light at 50mm and the beautiful shallow sharp depth (and much better looking blur)

It's a matter of quality vs flexibility and you can usually walk forward or backwards but you can't imitate quality.
Of course walking backwards and forwards isn't the same as zooming in, but it's close enough for me.
It's a different thing if you're mainly focusing on nature, specifically animals, because animals have the tendency to run/fly/hide if you get too close and you can't get quality and massive zoom without paying obscene amounts of cash ($5-8k per lens, anyone?). Or if you want to do architecture, but then you're going to end up having to go with either a tilt/shift lens or a technical camera at some point.

Anyway, I'm rambling a bit... Smiley: tongue


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He had a Canon, luckily though, I've been able to use his flash, but it has unfortunately FINALLY died. The wiring inside has just gotten bad that it kept over heating.

I'll definitely have a look at the upgraded version. The T3i looks nice. I know that places like Amazon or Target is selling it for about $600-700 with the 18-55 mm lens. I'd definitely want to get a different one as well eventually once I do get a better camera.
Rebel T2i, just the body for $549, with 17-55 kitlens for $649, but the canon 50mm f1.8 is only $119 so I'd go with that one over the kitlens for $19 extra, the 50mm you'll keep using for years (or until you get a 50mm f1.4) and the kitlens will be rotting away as soon as you get a decent lens. And especially with the limited range of the kitlens, the quality is more than worth the loss of versatility imo. Better to save up for something like the Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 or a 24-105 F4 lens rather than spending $100 on a lens that's going to be eating dust pretty quickly.

Edit 2: There's only 2 things I don't like about that body, it only has 1 wheel which makes manual mode a little clumsy since it's harder to switch aperture and shutter speed quickly and second the viewfinder coverage is only 95%, my D90 has 96% iirc and the fact that I don't quite get the full picture when I'm looking through my viewfinder is something that has been bugging me more and more over time. Still, there won't be a single "cheap" DSLR that doesn't have these issues.

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 10:07pm by Aethien
#14171 Mar 28 2012 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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The 18-200 Canon lens is an excellent lens. It might not be the absolute best lens in a given situation but it will be a good lens in almost any situation. The average non professional photographer will not be able to get a better picture by using the perfect lens, and will gain a lot in terms of flexibility and not having to carry around a lot of different lenses.

I probably wouldn't recommend you get an 18-200 lens Aeth Smiley: grin

I do know a photographer who loves it for candid shooting during a wedding, while never using it for the photoshoots.


Edited, Mar 28th 2012 2:55pm by Xsarus
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#14172 Mar 28 2012 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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I personally have an absolute hatred for variable aperture lenses. I find them incredibly frustrating and unreliable to work with because I tend to photograph at the widest aperture so often.
And just looking at the one site, a 70-200mm F4 is only slightly more expensive than an 18-200mm f3.5-5.6, a Tamron 28-105 f2.8 is a little cheaper. I'd go with either of those over the 18-200 in a heartbeat.


Edit: Looking at second hand lenses is a very good way to save a couple hundred bucks as well, at least when you're buying more high end lenses since their owners are likely to have taken good care of them and are either getting rid of them because of lack of use or switching brands or something. You still need to be careful with what you buy but it can save you a lot of cash/make purchasing good glass easier. And as I said, good glass lasts a lifetime.

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 10:21pm by Aethien
#14173 Mar 28 2012 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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This thread has made me glad that I don't care about DSLRs anymore.

My phone camera is 8 MP, if I can't take a good photo with that, I suck.

I also will never again spend $400-1200 on a lens (I have a 28-200 Nikkor f3.5, and a 70-300 f4). I've used my DLSRs once in the past two years; and that was to show my ex how to shoot a manual camera.

Aeth, do you know if a new Nikkor lens (with auto-focus and all the new whiz bangs and gizmos) will work on an old N70, or even an earlier model like an F? I assume they will if you turn the AF off?
#14174 Mar 28 2012 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
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As far as I know, pretty much any Nikon SLR lens will work on any Nikon SLR body, whether or not autofocus works depends on whether the lens has autofocus and whether it has it's own engine or not as well as whether the camera will be able to power it.
One of the main problems will be aperture though, if you can't manually change aperture on the lens you're **** out of luck on an F body I think.


Also MP =/= quality. My phone has 5 MP but it's pretty much impossible to make a decent photo with it since the sensor is a piece of crap that shows horrible noise even at low ISO, it also has something like a 0.5 second shutter delay.
That said, if you have an Iphone you're in a much better position already. (Still no manual options though, which sucks ***)
#14175 Mar 28 2012 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
As far as I know, pretty much any Nikon SLR lens will work on any Nikon SLR body, whether or not autofocus works depends on whether the lens has autofocus and whether it has it's own engine or not as well as whether the camera will be able to power it.
One of the main problems will be aperture though, if you can't manually change aperture on the lens you're sh*t out of luck on an F body I think.


Also MP =/= quality. My phone has 5 MP but it's pretty much impossible to make a decent photo with it since the sensor is a piece of crap that shows horrible noise even at low ISO, it also has something like a 0.5 second shutter delay.
That said, if you have an Iphone you're in a much better position already. (Still no manual options though, which sucks ***)

I have a 4S (helps that I work for Apple Smiley: sly).

And I was really just thinking, "hey, I'm going back to school at a place with a kick-*** darkroom and I have two kick-*** old Nikon film cameras, and I miss the darkroom".

I have an N70 which I know will work with my lenses, but I wasn't sure about my old F (not THE F, but a later variant; I can't remember the model name off-hand, but it was mostly silver on the top and bottom). Good to know that both of my lenses will work, as I've had them since I was shooting with my N70/D100.

On a side note, if you had a choice between shooting with a D100 or a D50, which would you choose to shoot with? I've had the D50 since it came out and a buddy was selling his D100 for $100, so I kind of picked it up on a whim like five years ago; they both have the same MP, but I've always assumed that the tech in the D50 was better (meters, motors, etc).
#14176 Mar 28 2012 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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Without looking up specs, probably the D100 since I think they're the same generation and the DX00 is the top end crop factor line.
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