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#5177 Apr 20 2011 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
Kalivha wrote:
Your English is pretty good.

That being said, British people are always impressed by people who speak more than one language because it is so uncommon here!


Really? I thought all European countries taught their students multiple languages. I guess that's just because every European student I've come in contact with is multi-lingual. I remember my freshman year in high school we had an exchange student from Germany who was fluent in 7 different languages. That impressed the hell out of me.

I do wish that more Americans appreciated learning other languages. When I hear someone else speaking a foreign language, I think it's cool. And that happens a lot on campus too. We've got exchange students from all over the world. The most common being students from Asia or the Middle East.

Yay for internet being back on!

I've been reading a book for one of my classes that is incredibly inspiring. "Pedagogy of Hope" by Paulo Freire. He is apparently the leading education theorist for the 20th century, and I can see why. It makes me realize how lucky I am to be getting a college education (not to mention privileged). It's also really inspiring to read his opinions on teaching lower class people, and just teaching in general. To treat your students with respect. Acknowledge that you learn as much from them as they learn from you.
#5178 Apr 20 2011 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
Your English is pretty good.

That being said, British people are always impressed by people who speak more than one language because it is so uncommon here!


Really? I thought all European countries taught their students multiple languages. I guess that's just because every European student I've come in contact with is multi-lingual. I remember my freshman year in high school we had an exchange student from Germany who was fluent in 7 different languages. That impressed the hell out of me.


In England, foreign languages are mandatory for two years. Two years at school mean nothing language-wise.

In college (sixthform), people tend to either go do sciences or languages or mix a lot with all sorts of things, so a lot of people who do languages do more than one.


In Germany, when I was in school, everyone had to do two foreign languages, one from Year 5 and one from Year 7. They start in preschool with English now in most places, and generally the people who go to grammar school are good at them, but the others come out with no knowledge that is actually any use, even if they get decent marks in English.

I personally learned Mandarin Chinese from when I was 9 for 6 years and I'm getting back into it a little bit now, but not to the point where I could do much with it. In school in Germany, I did 10 years of Latin, 8 years of English (which did not teach me the English I use today, some people got A's in it while being far from my level of English proficiency, even at college level), 7 years of Greek (I started failing all my exams at some point and only got an A in my GCSE/high school diploma in it because I cheated in the exam), 3 years of Hebrew, a year of Dutch (read this as "reading Dutch newspapers, eating fast food and talking about booze and weed with our school vicar"), and half a year of French, half of which was a complete waste because our teacher was ill for months.

In England, I've done English on every level (I sat the Literacy exam and the Advanced Subsidiary Eng Lang/linguistics exam within a month of each other), German at AS Level and my A Level speaking exam is actually next week, and Dutch at AS and I've got the A2 exam in June for that. Dutch is actually my best language apart from English and German, and I'm nowhere near fluent in it.

My brother doesn't speak English because he went through education before the Iron Curtain stopped being an issue, but he's somewhere between conversational and native-level fluent in 12 or so languages, if you count the Romany dialects he speaks.

My parents both know some basic Russian, and my mum knows some very basic English.

I am going to blatantly state something here that is in line with what I know of sociolinguistics but that I can't back up with studies or anything: Similar to how middle class people have the greatest social mobility that shows in their own language, they are also most likely to speak more languages. It ties in with social network theory, because working class people don't move out of their social circle; they work, go to the pub, and sleep with pretty much the same people, usually. They don't have a need to learn more languages. People who go to university (especially abroad!) need language skills, and generally have more of an interest in stuff.


Plus, you wouldn't have them at an American university if they didn't speak English, and since you move in linguist circles it makes even more sense!



ETA: Nobby actually speaks like 7 languages; he's also one of the people I know who've moved up the social ladder the quickest, proving my point.

Edit²: It's actually not called "social networking theory", silly Kali!

Edited, Apr 20th 2011 8:58pm by Kalivha
#5179 Apr 20 2011 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Kalivha wrote:
Your English is pretty good.

That being said, British people are always impressed by people who speak more than one language because it is so uncommon here!


Really? I thought all European countries taught their students multiple languages.
The British aren't real Europeans.
#5180 Apr 20 2011 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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Also Kali is ******* good with languages. In the one week she was here her accent went from really thick to not much more than German/English people who have been living here for most of their lives and the use of her mini dictionary went from every other word to not used much.
#5181 Apr 20 2011 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
Your English is pretty good.

That being said, British people are always impressed by people who speak more than one language because it is so uncommon here!


Really? I thought all European countries taught their students multiple languages.
The British aren't real Europeans.


Eh, I suppose that's true. :-) Us silly Americans tend to forget that the British like to ostracize themselves from the rest of you all.
#5182 Apr 20 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
Ha! But I haven't used my Dutch much since the AS exam last May. My next exam is approaching fast. I'm downloading some audiobooks (Thea Beckman and stuff) now from a website I found on reddit. <3

The good thing is, I need to score like 76% to get an A overall, so it should be fine.



Also, I just found out that my amazing cousin is moving to Edinburgh, too. All the awesome in the world is being concentrated in that one city. It's gonna be marvellous. My mind feels literally blown. Like my head feels all explodey and stuff.
#5183 Apr 20 2011 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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The sad thing is that most proficient English ASL speakers are better than us natives. :(

I have a friend named Yannik, who studied abroad at my high school. Besides his German accent, his grammar and pronunciation were both better. And his vocabulary was perfectly fine (even with slang, because of the internet and such :P)
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#5184 Apr 20 2011 at 11:52 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
Ha! But I haven't used my Dutch much since the AS exam last May. My next exam is approaching fast. I'm downloading some audiobooks (Thea Beckman and stuff) now from a website I found on reddit. <3
Thea Beckman is awesome.
And maybe I should reinstall Skype wor something and talk Dutch to you (If you're ever on skype that is)
#5185 Apr 21 2011 at 2:08 AM Rating: Good
By English ASL, do you mean American Sign Language or As a Second Language?
#5186 Apr 21 2011 at 2:54 AM Rating: Good
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A S.... Level, I think.
She has probably told me half a dozen times but I can't remember these kind of things Smiley: lol
#5187 Apr 21 2011 at 2:57 AM Rating: Good
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Something that happens here and it just awe me is that a bunch of people that lives here and work here for years actually speak english worse than me.
There were this woman, that I was going to ask directions the day I got here, and she just couldnt speak english at all! And she worked for the Heathrow airport! I thought it was pretty stupid.
I mean, cmon, if you are going to live somewhere besides your own country, at least try and learn the proper language.

I dont know, I just thought it was pretty amusing, but not in a good way.
#5188 Apr 21 2011 at 3:34 AM Rating: Good
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Kali is like a language fembot. A robot designed to be female and good at languages. Assimilation successful.

And hey Guns, where have you been?

Also, 'magpie' is a funny name for that bird. We call it a 'skade', which directly means 'damage'. They're largely considered pest animals here ('skadedyr' - 'damage animals').
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#5189 Apr 21 2011 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Kali is like a language fembot. A robot designed to be female and good at languages. Assimilation successful.

And hey Guns, where have you been?

Also, 'magpie' is a funny name for that bird. We call it a 'skade', which directly means 'damage'. They're largely considered pest animals here ('skadedyr' - 'damage animals').
You have weird ways of spelling your words. It's 'schade' and 'dier'.
#5190 Apr 21 2011 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
ASL is as a second language, aye.

I'm not good at languages. Mazra should know that. My Danish (and Icelandic) only work sporadically, and that's true for most languages. I'm good at chemistry. And computing. And perhaps fetish talks. That being said, if I could actually get into the field in the future, I totally wouldn't mind doing computational neurolinguistics for a living. I just googled that; I came up with it while I was drunk, but that field actually seems to exist, yay!
#5191 Apr 21 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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As a second language, sorry--should have clarified.
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#5192 Apr 21 2011 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
I'm not good at languages.
Smiley: lolSmiley: laughSmiley: lol
No seriously, you might not be good at languages when compared to your own ridiculous standards but you're really good at languages compared to most people.
#5193 Apr 21 2011 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
I'm good at ... And perhaps fetish talks.
Also, this got me to imagine you wearing a ********** outfit.





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#5194 Apr 21 2011 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
Oh! Do you have a Fetlife account?


But seriously. I. Am. Not. Into. Domming. That's all.


And my talent for languages has more or less been proven to be tiny compared to my talent for other things, so yeah. I've got to apply some standard to know what to do with myself!
#5195 Apr 21 2011 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
Oh! Do you have a Fetlife account?
Nope.


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But seriously. I. Am. Not. Into. Domming. That's all.
I know, but the image of you in a corset and high leather boots if ******* hot so I'm keeping that mental image.
#5196 Apr 21 2011 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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ALSO WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Beer is good, tomorrow will be an interesting day at school.
Also also, Kali is hawt.
Also also also, while you may be even better at sciency stuff than at languages you're still ******* good at languages. You're really smart, you know that? I think you do but you're only looking at people who are better at everything than you are so you think you're not that smart while you are.
Not like me repeating that you're really ******* smart is going to make you believe me but I'll keep trying.










Also, yay beer!
#5197 Apr 21 2011 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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Oh! Do you have a Fetlife account?


I do, I do! :D PM me with your user name there and I'll add you. ^_^ If you want to, of course.

I'm not into domming either, I'm way too submissive for that stuff. At least in the bedroom. >.> I'm not very submissive in person outside of that though.

Although, I have a funny story about when I realized I was submissive. The boyfriend that introduced me and J into the kink community a year and a half ago, he and I had only been dating for about two weeks at this point. We had gone to one of the rental hot tubs in town, and then we went for a walk by the river. It's November, so it's cold, and my hair is still wet, so I'm pretty cold even with a jacket on. We see a park bench, so we sit down and cuddle to keep warm. We're talking (I don't even remember what about) and then out of nowhere he says to me, "Take your shirt off." And I did, without even thinking about it. Then we both kind of stared at each other incredulously because he hadn't really thought of himself as a dominant person before, and I was amazed I had done that without even thinking about it. It was dark, and there wasn't many people walking around at that time, so I wasn't worried about anyone seeing, it was just the fact that it was really cold.

Oh, and Aeth is cute when he's drunk. ^_^

Edited, Apr 21st 2011 2:10pm by PigtailsOfDoom
#5198 Apr 21 2011 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
Aeth is cute anyway.

And pretty good in bed. Smiley: sly


Actually, Pigtails, I just realised that you were the one who got me to first read about Poly stuff. It sort of stuck in my head when you were talking about it in the OOT a while ago, and I started looking into it.


For me, I'm not really into subbing (except I'm now getting involved with someone who's really into domming and between my mind and reading slave-themed erotica, I actually ended up totally seeing him and me in the situation in the story, with me being the sub, and it was nice). I would be into domming, but anything that is even remotely non-consent related makes me extremely uneasy (I wrote something about that on Fetlife actually), so it's something I wouldn't be able to appreciate properly.
I've actually gotten an informal invitation into FetSoc in Edinburgh when I study there, and I think I'm gonna take up that offer. <3


Oh, and Aeth, I know I'm part of the most intelligent 0.2% on the planet, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try to do my best! :P
By Rio's definition I'm totally a ****-up as well.
#5199 Apr 21 2011 at 3:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kalivha wrote:
Aeth is cute anyway.

And pretty good in bed. Smiley: sly


Ahhh Bored Druid Thread, how I missed you and your crazy antics. Smiley: lol

Edited, Apr 21st 2011 2:08pm by someproteinguy
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#5200 Apr 21 2011 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
This message was brought to you by semi-drunk Kali. I was annoyed at holding my can of Strongbow so I emptied it as quickly as I could.
#5201 Apr 21 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Omg, these will make you cry.

A friend just left that on my facebook and... omg.

Edited, Apr 21st 2011 5:43pm by idiggory
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