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#1 Mar 23 2009 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a DK. (Only 70, but come on.)

I was sitting around toying with 3.1 specs and came upon one that I think could be really great. Leveling my DK I know the importance of Oblit, and how right now Diseaseless Blood is the best, because of Oblits and Heart Strikes.

But hey, Blood is losing that 45% Oblit crit damage in 3.1 and guess who's getting it. Frost.

I'm not gonna spend forever explaining it, here it is.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVh0coZG0xtAbckfzVos

Bonuses: 32% Oblit crit from just talents.
Frost Strike, a nice RP dump. (I think, not entirely sure, never been Frost that deep)
Nice cooldowns. Deathchill, Unbreakable Armor & Mark of Blood.

I've talked this over with a friend who also has a DK (76) but I think we can grasp the mechanics enough to know a good spec when we see it.

The rotation would go like this.

(Fight starts)
-Blood Strike x2, making Death Runes
-Oblit x2, making Death Runes
-Frost Strikes
-One IT
-One PS
-Oblit x2
(Repeat)

Or

(Fight starts)
-Blood Strike x2, making DR's
-Oblit x2, making DR's
-Frost Strikes
-IT x2
-Oblit x2
(Repeat)

Basically the only difference is a Plague Strike, for the disease. The question is, is the extra disease damage multiplier on Oblit worth the low damage Plague Strike? Or would another strong IT be better?

For that matter, could you just go:
(Fight starts)
-Blood Strike x2, making DR's
-Oblit x2, making DR's
-Frost Strikes
-Oblit x3 rest of the fight with Frost Strikes for dump

And do better?

Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 11:00pm by CestinShaman
#2 Mar 23 2009 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm gonna be blunt, I don't like the spec at all (though that isn't saying it CAN'T be good, I just don't think it will).

For one thing, Obliterate is powerful right now but will be inferior to Death Strike if nothing changes in 3.1.

Let's look at the rotations.

Quote:
(Fight starts)
-Blood Strike x2, making Death Runes
-Oblit x2, making Death Runes
-Frost Strikes
-One IT
-One PS
-Oblit x2
(Repeat)


1. Blood Strikes both lose 25% damage because you have no diseases.
2. Both Oblits lose 25% damage for the same reason.
3. All of your runes are now Death Runes.
4. Frost Strike (x1)
5. An IT, adding Frost Fever. -1 Death
6. A PS, adding Blood Plague. -1 Death
7. Two Obliterates at full power. -4 Death.

Okay, you are losing a lot of damage in the beginning. Furthermore, you have no need to turn FU runes into DRs if you are just going to use them for the same thing.

Furthermore, with your talent spec, you lose a potential 15% damage on ALL abilities (not to mention 5 expertise).

So, I have to say no to this one.

Quote:
(Fight starts)
-Blood Strike x2, making DR's
-Oblit x2, making DR's
-Frost Strikes
-IT x2
-Oblit x2
(Repeat)


Same issue in the beginning. 5 more points in Frost would boost ALL of your abilities by 15%. And your final two oblits lose 12.5% damage because you don't have Blood Plague.

Quote:
For that matter, could you just go:
(Fight starts)
-Blood Strike x2, making DR's
-Oblit x2, making DR's
-Frost Strikes
-Oblit x3 rest of the fight with Frost Strikes for dump


This one doesn't make any sense either. It is like fighting as an opposite DB spec, with BSs instead of HSs, and using the Frost tree...


I give you kudos for trying, but the spec is just bad. Oblit is good, but not THAT good. Same with Death Runes--they are great, but not great enough you should be turning EVERYTHING into one.

Go ahead and try again, but I would abandon this spec.
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#3 Mar 23 2009 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Right off the bat I can tell you that your build is infinitely inferior to 21/50/0, and even more when you consider that 20/51/0 or even 17/54/0 or 17/51/3 will be better no matter what.

Missing out on Tundra Stalker is a BIG no-no.
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