Need some help with a new raid specFollow

Here's my armory. Sorry I forgot to put it up.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Akama&n=Gryver

Idiggory's talent placement is mostly good for raiding. The only issue I have is with the 5/5 desecration. A lot of fights in Naxx are heavy into movement, and quite honestly, plague strike is not that good of an attack. It is good for the initial laying of blood disease, and after that, hopefully, your glyph of scourge strike should reapply.

The ghoul is a good source of damage. Night of the dead is recommended for its survival. Dirge is also recommended as well for runic generation.

I'm fine helping people with builds and rotations. It is just annoying to have to ask EVERY TIME for them to give us important info. My comment about the two digit posters is that they are usually the ones who have comments like: "This is my build, is it good?" We usually get a lot more info from people with higher post counts. I do, at least, have to give kudos to this poster for linking his armory as well.

But, you are right Therion. Me complaining changes nothing. I do wish we could add a "New Build Thread" button that would have a survey they could fill out to actually help us.

And, about Desecration, I personally don't like the talent at all--it has an annoying animation and only works when in the area. But, for a non-mobile fight it is a good DpS boost. It's one of those talents that won't really make or break a fight. There is no reason not to take it, because there isn't really anything better. You can take Virulence when hit is low. NotD, like Therion said, is a good option for fights with AoE damage. You can take Dirge, but RP should never be an issue unless you have a really weird rotation.

Check out this sticky and those over at Elitistjerks.com. Knowing your class, as Therion said, is the key to success. Us giving you a build won't help your DpS much if you don't know how to use it.

My apologies guys, I realize you probably all get questions like this all the time. I'll make it more specific.

I want to stay Unholy, I prefer it. However, I'm willing to try a DW spec.

I can expect up grades, we're not doing 25 man yet.

I'm not sure what you mean of max/min. I'm sorry.

I'd like to balance both AOE and single target DPS.

Can you suggest another sigil? I couldn't find many that suited me that I could buy.


Again I'm sorry for your frustration I'm not trying to add to it. I Just wanted a relative and fresh perspective. Thanks in advance.

Phenomenal.^^



Well, that build I linked is fairly standard. You can use that one, or alter it a little to suit your own and your guild's needs.



From what I recall, Unholy is fairly gear dependent (I could be COMPLETELY wrong here, though, not being a DpS DK). So, better gear should show a big increase in DpS.



Max/min is the term used to describe the process of maximizing your class' attributes whilst minimizing their downsides. For example, a Mage will try to maximize their DpS and minimize their mana inefficiency. It is a normal process taken when building a toon through gear, talents and rotation. Someone who's SOLE purpose is to max/min would be aiming for specific numbers with stats, specific weapon speeds, sacrifice luxury talents and such. In general, a casual guild won't need to do this as much. So, you just need to do this a little. Think about gems and trying to raise your stats is good enough for now. As you learn more about the class, it will be even easier to do (such as naturally maintaining high hit and expertise).



Again, the build I linked should be good. Though, until you get more hit, you may want to take Virulence. Having a perma ghoul and Garg will boost your single target (not to mention your SS+, PS+ and other skill talents). Unholy Blight, Crypt Fever and Wandering Plague will boost your AoE.



Do the Grizzly Hills PvP dailies for 50 Venture Coins to buy Sigil of Arthritic Binding. The extra 203 damage is nice, considering you will use it at least once every rotation.

The Sigil you have now is kinda lackluster. It isn't BAD, just not as good as could be. Because it only procs on Blood Strike, you will never get its bonus in AoE situations, since you will either be using Pestilence to spread/refresh diseases or Blood Boil to damage. Furthermore, even on single targets, you will want to Scourge Strike before your double Blood Strikes, because that ability will reset two rune CDs at once. Your crit is already pretty nice, and your abilities have higher crit chances from talents. So, the extra 3.x percent half the time is only so-so.

Once your guild gets into Naxx, I HIGHLY recommend trying very hard to get the Sigil of Awareness. It is, by far, the best sigil for the vast majority of PvE and a lot of PvP content right now.

Until you get around to getting one of these two, though, yours is fine. You can, however, get the Grizzly Hills sigil from one day of dailies.



No, sorry I snapped. You were one of the better ones. I just feel like all I have done on this board for the past three weeks ins answer spec questions.^^

Unholy is really the least gear-dependent build that we can use in PvE outside of DW.

Blood is heavily dependent on gear because it's largely physical damage. Frost is probably about even with Unholy, though Frost Strike scales with weapon damage, unlike Death Coil which scales with AP.

I really think Unholy is the best spec to play as a new DK, mainly because a majority of it's damage ignores armor (like, all of it but auto attacks? ), and you can really boost your damage through Impurity/Necrosis/BCB/Ghoul.

Generally if you're raiding with more than one DK, the less geared should be Unholy and the more geared should be Diseaseless Blood. That gives the benefit of Ebon Plaguebringer without double-stacking it (which effectively makes those talents worthless for the DK that got their diseases up second).

If you've got a better 2h than you can get 1h, you're safe with Unholy. Like, for example, if you have the TSD and can only get rep 1hs.

I dunno. I'm with Idiggory. This OP in particular with his "I haven't had the time" is blatantly lazy. He wants others to do his homework for him. I agree about the stickies, too, but that's something that should be implied just by them being stickies, instead of having to be pointed out as if to a child who has no idea what a sticky might be.