DK 3.1 Tanking specFollow

Hello all, after hearing that the patch 3.1 is coming out in about 2 weeks I set to work on making a new frost tanking spec.
Pls take a look

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EZGgxth0hkcubsot0gh

After going over the spec many times the only thing I have considered changing is the [Epidemic] in Unholy to [Two-handed weapon specialization] in Blood
Any advise or comments?

Thanks for the comment,
I could never drop Morbidity I absulotly love have a 15 sec cd on my D&D its a life saver.
For Virulence I was thinking of Gluth and pvp... I think I should prob change that.
As for Blood of the North I think I would rather get Guile of the Gorefiend.

I'll work on different specs and see what I can make up :)

Correction when I said,"For Virulence I as thinking of Gluth and pvp." I ment, For Chillbains I was thinking of Gluth and pvp.

That spec just doesn't seem good... at all.

Blood of the North and Guile of Gorefiend are two AWESOME talents.

You don't want Hungering Cold.

You do want Glacier Rot.

You don't have much use for Runic Power Mastery. You should be using Rune Strike and Frost Strike way too often to make use of an extra 30 RP.

Icy Reach isn't that useful to a non-PvP DK. You will always be in melee range, other than pulling, and you can Death Grip to do that.

Killing Machine > Deathchill, even at one point. Killing Machine 5/5 will have you critting ALL THE TIME, even as a tank.

Subversion 3/3 should be a pretty nice threat boost.

Morbidity just ISN'T a good talent once you get the hand of multi-target threat control. And, even then, you should only need 2 points into it. Runes refresh every 8-10 seconds. You will want to refresh diseases every 20-21 seconds. So, basically, you will have a rotation of diseases+Pest/BB+DnD and then a rotation of HB/Oblit and BB (or, better, pest on two mobs to refresh all diseases, so you can Oblit or HB instead next rotation)*2.

Acclimation is situationally useful. Some instances it will be very, others it will be little. It is up to you whether or not you always want to spec it or just take it when needed.

[EDIT]
Final note, why the hell are you taking Lichborne? It sucks for tanking now...

Your second build doesn't seem much better.

Morbidity without Epidemic is just stupid. That means you will just have a horrible rotation, often without diseases (destroying your HB and Oblit damage, which you will almost never be using).

Why aren't you taking Annihilation?

There is just so much wrong with the build. It makes no sense from an AoE, single-target or mitigation perspective.

Look at this one:
Frost Tank Build

It would be best if you could run with a shaman, letting you drop a full 6 points. Add 3 to KM, and put 3 in Acclimation.

And then you have a much better build. If you will be doing a lot of DnD, you can put 2-3 points in Morbidity and 0-1 in Acclimation or, if you really want, Deathchill (and, even then, just for the rare case you won't have a KB available to crit your first HB for threat).

Edited, Mar 19th 2009 6:17pm by idiggory

Stupid comment is stupid.

Here are some examples:

People who will be running 5 or 10 mans.

People who want their Shaman to put down a different totem, considering Icy Talons > Windfury Totem and it gives an additional 5% haste buff to the DK.

People who will be PuGing for some/all of their raiding, and cannot depend on someone else to buff.

People who don't run with a Shaman or another Frost DK in their group every week--it is better to have two people able to give the haste buff than no people able to.

People who want the ability for questing/farming/whatever.



Yeah, maybe most Frost DK tanks won't take Icy Talons when in a raiding guild. But it is a very smart decision for someone who cannot guarantee their group will be getting a haste buff.

Until I get started applying to raiding guilds, I will definitely have Icy Talons and Imp. Icy Talons in my build (though I may go Unholy come 3.1)