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You're lack of comprehension makes you look like an idiot. As does your posting. Are you an idiot?

Actually I need to step back into this reply. Where do you get off? You and zepoodle are the same, quoting self-worth, psychology etc... it's a bloody forum guys. It hold no more weight than that. You keep posting back different comments and statements, I keep answering you. Aside from the annoyance that two people who keep trying to be oh so clever, there's no great earth shattering meaning to this argument.

You both have a few thousand posts under your belt, but you post like you're some sort of authority, whether that's on the game or this forum. This is evident in the "just leave" and other similar remarks. Do you not get it? I have a right to post here just as much as you do. Your post count doesn't elevate you to some pseudo admin status.

I disagree with you, no more no less, anything else is just crap that you're using to try and spruce up your posts with cleverness.

Edited, Apr 6th 2009 9:14am by Goggy

Edited, Apr 6th 2009 9:14am by Goggy

Edited, Apr 6th 2009 9:20am by Goggy

Actually it said "If you'd like to lend your weight it is here", with "If you'd like to" being the world of difference.

Your inability to correctly quote and then follow up you argument is compounded by your ability to correctly deduce how this thread has gone. As you are a complete moron allow me to fill you in. As I have stated over and over, which none the few people who continue to try and be smart ***** have still grasped, it is about the SoB recoil, the argument came from people trying to say that it is I, who personally who want this changed.

So take your ill-informed ****-tard opinion and shove it, cretin.

Just posting a bit of frustration. You're a complete ******* jerk, I normally have no problem with discussing disagreements with intelligent, functional people, but I gotta say there comes a time when you just can't speak to someone like you, without some pathetic snot nosed, half-***** clever attempt or *********** reply. In those case you just have to crack them one in the chops and walk on.

Sometimes life's unfair.

The problem with me, and I'll happily admit it, is that I'm a little bit lazy or if I was going to provide an excuse is that most of the time I'm in work and limited as to how much I can keep going back over the whole thread.

But lets answer your accusations. This started from tommyguns comment here:



I wrote:



Then RuenBahamut wrote:



Then I wrote:



Then tommyguns jumped in with:



So you see. Although I may have retaliated to Ruen's post, I didn't start this tit-for-tat. Now I'm am fully entitled to defend myself and as far as I can tell, the people in this thread seem to have jumped onto each others bandwagon, rather than reading how this started and lashing out with every post.

I admit I could have chose to be more civil, but as far as I can tell I did not start this. I still disagree with the calling of the thread a "QQ", I thought it was very dismissive and did not add to the debate. I'd hardly call what I did completely out of the ordinary, you guys disagree with how this thread has gone and, irrespective of whether I am right or wrong, have serially marked me down.

You wrote:



As we have seen, it is not a fact. Unfortunately this is how this thread has gone. Maybe in future I should take the time to re-post the track of the comments before replying to yet another thread with a variety of insults in it, but to be honest I can't be bothered. I've done it this time, but if people can't be ***** to read or have a completely skewed opinion about my posting then who gives a @#%^, let them rate down.



I'll give anyone the time of day, when you start repeating "douche bag" and others over and over then my patience has gone and it is a bloody good thing that he's not talking to me. I'm afraid the adage that people only type insults because they are in the safety of knowledge that they are behind their keyboard is true. I'm a fair person, but if you start being a complete **** to my face then things are going to turn ugly.

I can't stand cowards, which in my opinion, is what he is.

Edited, Apr 6th 2009 11:18am by Goggy

[quote=**************** read and reread, and I'm not seeing what you see.[/quote]
You have to turn your filter off so you can see the sub-default posts.

One might think that if you recognize that you're not taking the time to inform yourself or at least present a reasonable argument that you at least refrain from personal attacks on people, because those who do take the time to inform themselves and post relevant supporting information will see through your ******** and call you on it.



Yes actually you did start it. You're relatively new to these forums so let me explain something to you: rating people down because they use an expression you don't like is weak. It's just...stupid. That's not what the rating system exists for. tommyguns made a very reasonable post and you rated it down (or so you thought) because of an expression you disapproved of. While accusing him of dismissing the post on the o-boards, you dismissed his entire post becuase of one expression...and the expression wasn't even directed at you.

You, on the other hand, have been karma bombed because you're not contributing anything worthwhile. For the vast majority of this thread, you've avoided any and every request to back up your position on SoB/SotM with something more than namecalling and asshattery. You've systematically disrespected anyone who has posted an opinion contrary to your own, and in general made a right jolly mess of things. Just another karma tip for you: when you go from a score of "Decent" to "Sub-Default" and stay there, and you do so in almost every single post you've made in a 3 page thread, it's a pretty damn safe bet that you've been wrong. The goal then becomes to stop defending your idiocy and save face before you have to endure months of people dismissing everything you say simply by virtue of the fact that it comes from you and you've obliterated your credibility.



Oh no, it wasn't irrespective of whether you are right or wrong. You were wrong. Flat out. And that's why your abusive crap has been karma bombed to oblivion.



Sure it has. Telling people to write 100 lines is pretty disrespectful. Accusing people of failing to grasp the point is not exactly top-notch people skills. More importantly, the insinuation that nobody but you could possibly understand the mechanics behind SoB/SotM such that they need to go read an o-board thread and inform themselves before they can comment on it is patently ridiculous. All they needed to know was that someone started a threat on the o-boards kvetching about the recoil from SoB/SotM. It's not a new complaint. People have already formed their opinions on the issue. Just because it was new information to you doesn't mean anything. But you assume that their opinions aren't as informed as yours and use that as justification to cut them down for it...phew...you picked the wrong crowd to use that angle on.



Naw, if you walked up to me and started a conversation about SoB/SotM and responded to my opinions the way you've responded to others here, I'd laugh at you and walk away. If you tried to stop me from walking away, I'd roflstomp your punk emo ***. It's just that simple.

Yep your new posts bring nothing new - "we're so right and you're so wrong blah blah" - what a shock.

A ménage à trois of twats.

Edited, Apr 6th 2009 12:48pm by Goggy

I really don't understand why I get rated down for disagreeing. Doesn't seem conducive to "discussion" if differing opinions are shunned.

You've hit the nail on the head with this half-sentence. You trusted what someone wrote in a thread that's just full of people crying that they take some damage while dealing some damage and you were too lazy to think about it for yourself. Then you were too lazy to consider what people here did with the whole number-crunching exercise and looking at actual parses where the seal was used. You just trusted what other people said and then took it personally when people disagreed.

I think that sums up the problem in a nutshell. At least now you won't be rating people down for trivialising a complaint that doesn't hold water.

Ok, sorry, I'm back one more time... Decided to change my filter so I could read all your posts... Saw this one and thought it was curious.... Have you read anything over at EJ? Unless there's something crazy I've missed, there is no "thread" on SoB/tM recoil. There is only the Retribution Paladin thread which has a very few posts in it about SoB/tM. The people over at EJ have long since given it up and seem to feel that it is not an issue, particularly in 3.1 when Judgements will do less damage and Seals will do more and scaling will be causing rediculous large JoL heals. Even when they were posting about the recoild (mid-march I believe), there were only a few people that thought it was a problem and there were others who are of the same mind as many of us here that there is no problem. Merely a mechanic that we need to learn to use correctly. So, you can try to say that "EJ thinks recoil should be removed" but in my reading there I see the opposite side being more mathematically and substantially validated. Again, the fact that you say there is a whole thread there about SoB recoil indicates how much you really checked the sources of the OP in the o-board thread...

I realize that this does not inherently make you wrong. However, it certainly doesn't help a discussion when you show yourself not to have read what you say is your supporting document.

On the positive note though, Goggy, you have nowhere to go but up I think. Pretty sure you've been at rock bottom for most of this thread.