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Actually not at all, being right would mean not insulting. If you're a prick, you're gonna get called a prick.
I would say that if anyone (other than you, of course) was a prick in this thread, it was me, yet you've chosen to go after everyone else. I've re-read the thread. Nobody was insulting...they were offering different opinions. If you want to argue that point,
quote what was insulting. And I mean that. Don't **** around and avoid the issue...quote what someone else said that was insulting to you before you started being a right butthurt dork about everything.
Go ahead...quote where anyone was insulting before your comment about writing 100 lines...I dare you.
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So by virtue of what you have said I should take what you say as right? You see the irony right?
Where the hell did that moronic little tidbit come from? You're saying that you're taking the information posted on Elitist Jerks as gospel...I'm saying that just because it's on Elitist Jerks doesn't make it accurate. You flat out said in this thread that you can't be bothered to sort out the theorycraft for yourself, but somehow you've got such an enormous grasp of game mechanics that you can cut down people for offering an opinion that differs from yours because you've got this miraculously foolproof source for your information? God forbid you should ever go into journalism...
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Erm is hasn't been pulled apart, and to be honest people want to dip their toe in the pond I'm not going to deny them. Sadly their theory is pretty poor, but hey ho.
Ya, it has been pulled apart. By several people quoting hard data. All you keep doing is referencing other people's posts. If you could actually offer up an intelligent argument based on your own direct (and ideally quoted) interpretation of that data, you might have a leg to stand on. You don't...so you resort to what every other adolescent monkey in the world does...you skip the facts and cut directly to the namecalling. You want to call names? Fill your boots...just back it up with something more substantial that what yer daddy told ya, mmmkay?
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Actually **** wad, we have seen recoils to ret palas in excess of 11k, couple that with combat/AOE and other damage it's nothing to be sniffed. Further, the argument about why take a class that damages itself against a class that doesn't still stands. No trees required.
Lemme guess...11k recoil during a Thaddius encounter, amirite? Or maybe on an Understudy add after Razuvious went down? I know I've hit upwards of 120k damage with an SoR crit on one of the Understudies after Razuvious was dead...it was awesome. So I'll give you an opportunity now to site on what phase of which encounter that 11k judgment recoil took place, because I'm about 99.9% certain you're referencing a situation involving an ignorant/inattentive/retarded ret paladin using a self-damaging ability at a very bad time. Kinda like a warlock Life Tapping when he's got 10% health after a KT Iceblock and right before he gets tagged with a frost bolt nova. But his death would be the fault of class mechanics and not the player, right?
And if you won't site the encounter/phase, your reference is moot.
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It's personal again. If you're asking me, yes I switch to SoC when it is a problem, why do I have to switch to SoC, because it's a @#%^ing problem. Try eating less stupid sandwiches.
No, it's not a problem. It's a game mechanic that requires you to be a little dynamic. I've seen Shadow Priests gank themselves with Shadow Word: Death but you don't see them ******** up a storm about it, do you? You know why?
Because they're not so stupid as to blame game mechanics when the choice they make to try and boost their dps ends up killing them. You don't see warlocks complaining about ganking themselves when they life tap themselves to oblivion in a heavy AoE fight, do you? You know why?
Because they're not so stupid as to blame a game mechanic for a choice they make to try and recover mana at the expense of health at a bad time. Quote:
Nothing screaming about, and once again for the slow people. You're posting and asking questions about me, I've answered them, not too friendly I'll admit, but generally because a small number of people on here are showing the complete inability to read and inwardly digest some good information. If they posted "I read it but don't agree" fine, but coming back and pointing the finger at me pisses me off. It's not my sole argument, I just happen to agree that it is an outdated mechanic.
How the hell would you know if it's good information or not? You've said yourself you just speed read it. It seems to me a lot like you found an argument that justifies your thoughts on an issue and instead of being objective about it, now you're fighting tooth and nail to defend it...and you have no ******* clue what it really said.
Brilliant.
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Yeah I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of time for people who fail to grasp the basic subject of a thread. I'll try to be nicer to the morons in future.
Why do I get the feeling that you're the only one that doesn't grasp the subject?
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I took issue with the OP on the o-boards not because I think ret pallies are fine, but because I found his complaint to be borderline whining and his solutions to be flat out retarded. His "final" recommendation where he listed the "new" tooltips for seal/judgement mechanics was about as stereotypically ret as you could hope for. Ya...the new penalty for ret pallies using SotM/SoB is that they'll take a bit of a hit in the physical DR category...when as ret pallies they shouldn't be taking physical damage in the first place...and the DR they're left with will still be considerably more than the DR from armor seen by rogues, kitty druids, and enhancement shaman. Brilliant.
Wut?
u kan haz wut DR meanz k? k.
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And that's the issue people have with ret pallies as a stereotype group...not that their class is fine and they just whine out of habit, but the fact that maybe they could use some tweaking here and there, but 9 times out of 10 when a would-be ret expert speaks up with suggestions, it's a whole mess of, "How you should tweak us to make us OP again."
Like no other class whines? You bring nothing to the table but stupid. Eat up.
No, other classes whine too. It's just that ret pallies have been doing it so poorly for so long that nobody really wants to hear from them anymore unless they can form a cogent argument that doesn't end up with the underlying theme, "Why we should be OP."
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@#%^ it, can't get the quotes sorted.
Ya, when you're trying to format a response with embedded quotes and the like it requires attention to detail and thought...both areas where you've demonstrated a remarkable deficiency. It's ok, though. Keep at it.
