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#1 Mar 13 2009 at 4:34 PM Rating: Sub-Default
Right now i am a lvl 62 frost mage, normal build all the way down. Since i made the toon i have been frost, and now i am thinking of rerolling either fire or arcane. So i just wanted to ask, which one is better to level with, arcane or fire? Frost gets a lil boring after a while :P
#2 Mar 13 2009 at 4:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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You mean respec.

Just stay Frost, if you know it so well already. The leveling difference between the specs is minimal once you know how to play them.

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But, if you are bored, go ahead. It'll take a little while to adjust, but you'll be fine.

Edited, Mar 13th 2009 8:57pm by idiggory
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#3 Mar 13 2009 at 4:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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When I see "reroll", it makes me think you want to recreate a new character from level 1.

I doubt that is the case.

So...

You are not stuck in any one spec. If you feel frost is not for you, feel free to experiment with the other trees. Try out arcane and fire and see what you like. You may not even like them and go back to frost. The points are yours to spend as you see fit. Read the sticky and get some ideas. Check out wowhead and wowwiki for guides on what common specs are being used at the moment.
#4REDACTED, Posted: Mar 13 2009 at 5:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) respec reroll w/e same difference. the reason i want to change is because i am frankly just getting a little bored of the same routine, Frost Bolt - Frost Bolt - Fire Blast - Instant Fireball(maybe) - Frost Bolt, lol you get what i mean, just trying to change it up. And the way i see it i will be respecing later on regardless so might as well try it now and see how it is. Question is should i go fire or arcane?
#5 Mar 13 2009 at 5:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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respec reroll w/e same difference. the reason i want to change is because i am frankly just getting a little bored of the same routine, Frost Bolt - Frost Bolt - Fire Blast - Instant Fireball(maybe) - Frost Bolt, lol you get what i mean, just trying to change it up. And the way i see it i will be respecing later on regardless so might as well try it now and see how it is. Question is should i go fire or arcane?


Read: You suck. Now take the time to help me.

Reroll = rolling a new character. The term comes from DnD, where you literally rolled a die to determine things like stats. Thus, depending on your GM, you could sometimes "reroll" if you got a really bad setup.

Respec = Speccing again. Spec coming from "specifications."

You don't roll talents.

So, how about less attitude towards someone who took the time to give you a good response. Especially because Kyrin gave you the best advice POSSIBLE:

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Try out arcane and fire and see what you like.



Seriously. Best advice anyone could give you. Like I said, both are perfectly good for leveling, and you will have to respec for end-game anyway.

You have most of the spells anyway. Do you like using fire spells or arcane spells more? Well, there's the one you should try first.
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#6 Mar 13 2009 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks, Idigg. I guess the op wants us to do his thinking for him. I almost made up 2 talent trees for him to try out. But really, I don't do that. I give them tools to make informed choices and let them go from there.
#7 Mar 14 2009 at 3:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks, Idigg. I guess the op wants us to do his thinking for him.


They always do.Smiley: glare
#8REDACTED, Posted: Mar 14 2009 at 3:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol asking for advice not do my thinking for me, advice like oh arcane can't handle big mobs, fire waists too much mana or stuff like that, but yeah, and i wasn't giving attitude ;-) and i got reroll from UO when u say ama reroll this guys temp as a ***, ;-)
#9 Mar 14 2009 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Respec = Speccing again. Spec coming from "specifications."


Not to drag the thread even more off-topic, but... I always thought spec came from 'Specialization'?
#10 Mar 14 2009 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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It very well could be either or, depending on where you are.
#11 Mar 14 2009 at 7:06 PM Rating: Good
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That is also very possible. It could be that source. It could be my source. It could be both.

Anyway, I'll give a few things. But you should keep in mind, at this point all of the leveling specs are essentially equal. Your playstyles are what will differ, so that is why you experiencing them is most important. NOTE: I HAVE NOT PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL MAGE AND THIS IS A COMBINATION OF SECONDHAND KNOWLEDGE AND LOW LEVEL EXPERIENCE.

From what I understand, the burst of arcane will be much higher. You can essentially take out a foe in seconds every few minutes, with good AoE along the way. However, it may not be as efficient. If you are on a PvP realm, this will give some fun toys for protection while leveling, as well as helping you kite higher level mobs and elites.

Fire can take things out fast as well, but may do it more consistently. You may have more troubles on elites or higher level mobs than you did on Frost or may do with Arcane.

Seriously, just try them out. The actual play is what matters. On my DK, I thought Frost sounded like the most boring of the three specs. Turns out, it is my favorite. Experience is what you need.
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#12 Mar 14 2009 at 8:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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From what I understand, the burst of arcane will be much higher. You can essentially take out a foe in seconds every few minutes, with good AoE along the way. However, it may not be as efficient. If you are on a PvP realm, this will give some fun toys for protection while leveling, as well as helping you kite higher level mobs and elites.


Actually, at his level, Arcane is a lot more efficient than one would think. It's only before 60 that I'm not a fan of it. Post 60, it has some really nice stuff going for it.
#13 Mar 15 2009 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I stand corrected.^^
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#14 Mar 16 2009 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
I would advise you to try other trees but realize it may take couple hour to get use to them. I like fire alot it took me a while to get use to frost but now I love frost. I going to try arcane since I'm past 60, I heard it can be alot fun with right gear & correct build.
#15 Mar 21 2009 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just had to say...

I popped on my old mage for some kicks today to unwind. I played this character in vanilla, 0-60, as frost. I quit him when TBC came out and rolled my current main (druid), but have gone back every few months for a level or two. I played fire from 60-62, then went back to frost up through 65. Today I came on and went "Meh, I have Arcane Blast now... let's try arcane!"

HOLY GOD.

I love it. Arcane is SO much fun. It's like the burst I liked with fire with more speed than frost. My basic rotation is AB>Slow>AB>Barr>wand or AB if low. If I get a MB proc in there, I fire off some quick missiles. Things die INCREDIBLY fast. With mage armor, 2 minute evocation (zomg!), and clearcasting, I run through mana and fill it up again every couple of minutes.

This is the pinnacle of "glass cannon" magery, in my mind. My survivability compared to frost to super low; I notice I take a lot more damage... when I get hit. Adds are a bit of a pain, but really not bad if I only get one or two. The burst, as said, is what makes me love this spec so far. Fire had burst too... but starting off with a Pyroblast took SO long. And while frost could get lucky with frostbite snares and instant fireballs, none of those did the damage of arcane. Furthermore, I decided I wasn't all that good at frost after vanilla; I was terrible at micro-managing my elemental, and almost NEVER used cold snap or icy veins. Interestingly I'm still having this issue with Arcane and Arcane Power... but the damage of the spec is so high, I don't even notice.

My advice: if you haven't tried it before go arcane at 64. It's a ton of fun!
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