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#1 Mar 13 2009 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
I wanted a bit of a change from my Paladin, basically something to play while my exp bar fills for a week or so at a time. A rogue looks rather interesting but I had a few concerns. I am used to taking on 2-3 mobs at a time with my pally, healing, and continuing. I notice you can not really do that with a rogue, because of the light armor and lack of a heal. So how can I make up for the deficiency?

I think the thing I loved about the pally is the soloability, strong armor, healing, a bit of DPS, but with 2 of the 3 lacking with a rogue, is it harder to solo? I dont want to go through the same areas as my pally, so I think Ill do alliance. So please any tips are welcome.
#2 Mar 13 2009 at 9:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Read the sticky.

Don't try to play your rogue like a pally. Two very different classes (I have one each at 80) which play very differently. Learn to love single-target burns while the mob is stunned. It's a bit slower early but once you get Cheap Shot things start to pick up.

Stealth, stun, build up some combo points and finish is the most basic pattern for rogues.

Multiple pulls are a bad idea until later on in the leveling process and should be avoided.

The point is that you burn the mobs down so quickly that you should see similar if not more XP per hour than leveling a pally pre-40 (when larger pulls become possible with Holy Shield). I found that pre 3.0 nerf my pally and rogue could get around the same XP/hour while in the 50-70 grind, but in entirely different ways. Ya just need to change your mind-set when on the two toons.

Good luck.
#3 Mar 15 2009 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
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TherionSaysWhat, Assassin Reject wrote:
Read the sticky.

Don't try to play your rogue like a pally. Two very different classes (I have one each at 80) which play very differently. Learn to love single-target burns while the mob is stunned. It's a bit slower early but once you get Cheap Shot things start to pick up.

Stealth, stun, build up some combo points and finish is the most basic pattern for rogues.

Multiple pulls are a bad idea until later on in the leveling process and should be avoided.

The point is that you burn the mobs down so quickly that you should see similar if not more XP per hour than leveling a pally pre-40 (when larger pulls become possible with Holy Shield). I found that pre 3.0 nerf my pally and rogue could get around the same XP/hour while in the 50-70 grind, but in entirely different ways. Ya just need to change your mind-set when on the two toons.

Good luck.


Best advice right there ... I had EXACTLY the same issues when starting a rogue after getting my warrior to 70. I just could not get my head wrapped around not being able to take hits, and lots of them, to the extent that I started and deleted no less than 5 rogues before level 15 (only one made it past 10). Then I came to this board, and received advice similar to Therion's above. I believe it was Demea who answered my call, and I've not looked back.

Make sure you know what your abilities are, the key ones are the abilities which keep your target locked down, so stuns, stuns, stuns.

Learn to use stealth, a key factor in playing a rogue is your ability to pick your fights - I completed quests on my rogue with the absolute minimum of killing (distract is your friend when you get it), while it took about 20-30 kills on my warrior to accomplish the same goal. True, this means that your kill xp goes down, but you can complete some quests quicker, so it balances out. If there is more than one mob to take down, sap the one - all part of picking your fights and being a sneak.

Evasion - don't be afraid to use it. It may have a cooldown, but it has that cooldown for a reason - it's a very powerful tool - so use it.

Get yourself a hard hitting sword, daggers are good and all, but in the early levels, you'll not be making the maximum use of the daggers - slow swords are your friend.

Don't be afraid to pull a mob with your ranged weapon. It's another part of the "Pick your fight" mentality - sometimes, picking your fight can't be done by stealthing in - so be a sneaky SoB in reverse and grab the mob's attention (and hurt him a bit) from a distance, assuming you have the aforementioned hard hitting sword, and you've followed the advice in the stickies wrt where to put your first points and what spec to start leveling in, pulling and nuking down (a single mob) face to face is child's play.

In short, adjust your mindset to being the sneaky SoB you're playing, and you should be fine.

Just remember one thing if you forget everything else - Rogues are single target destroyers, at later levels that changes to a degree if you're combat and you get Blade flurry and Adrenaline rush, but even then - that's not all the time. Concentrating on a single target, and locking them down is what a rogue is about.
#4 Mar 16 2009 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Then you hit 80 and do 25k-35k aoe dps ^^

God I love spider wing.
#5 Mar 16 2009 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
I'm in the same boat. I wanted a break from my daily routine as a lvl 80 pally. I rerolled rogue on a server my friend is on (I never leveled a rogue past 7 before). I found it difficult to adjust to the "kill one target" player style of a new rogue. It has been much slower and I find myself more cautious when approaching a fight. It's frustrating at times, but I'm going to try to stick with it. I'm level 11 now and learn something new about the class everyday. I'll grind until 20 something and then do a little more research.
#6 Mar 16 2009 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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You actually become very efficient lvling a rogue. With the advent of questhelper (for those that haven't lvled 8 different toons and know every quest) it should be very easy. Your XP/Hour should be fairly similar to lvling a pally as you complete quests faster (ie stealthing past mobs to the quest objective, etc.) vs. a pally getting XP for killing everything in it's path.
#7 Mar 17 2009 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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Something i found very useful while levelling my rogue was the blind/bandage combo. Always make sure your using the best bandages that you can, it'll save you many times on your way to 80
#8 Mar 17 2009 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Vanish > Bubble

Also, with the almost complete absence of "Kill x of y until you got 20x z"-grind quests once you leave Azeroth, and especially once you're in Northrend, no class should be able to even closely match a rogue's ability to complete quests and thus level fast, other than maybe a druid.
#9 Mar 17 2009 at 4:44 PM Rating: Default
Maybe it was more difficult because i found myself charging in too often.
#10 Mar 17 2009 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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You'll know when you're doing it right when you kill a mob, loot and stealth without even thinking about it and before searching for the next mob.
#11 Mar 18 2009 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
I wonder if I take into consideration that I can't and do not have to do every quest, Ill be ok.
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