I have been gone from WoW for closing in on 6 months. In that time I have been playing Warhammer Online. The warrior-priest class was always what I was looking for in a paladin in WoW. (someone who healed by using an energy source generated by doing damage) but unfortunately the games graphics required me to get a new graphics card that worked in the beginning but it crapped out a few weeks ago and I think it might have to do with my computer not being able to meet its power requirements.
I do not want to sit around for a few more weeks waiting to send it in get it fixed and might have it end up being ruined again.
Bottom line: is the paladin close enough to the warrior-priest (being able to bash in a few skulls but still able to throw in a heal when needed) that it won't be painful to play or should I just stick with WAR and wait it out?
If the paladin is not is there a class that can fill this role?
Also, how is the PvP?
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I think it's not like the warrior priest but Ret is kind of imba at the moment and hits like a truck, I think you'll probably like it.
That much I have heard what I really need to know is can Ret toss a heal to someone if they drop a few points in holy.
bamninja wrote:
That much I have heard what I really need to know is can Ret toss a heal to someone if they drop a few points in holy.
You don't need to put points in holy. That's not the way it works and the lack of points in holy isn't what reduces your healing ability. You're going to have to try it for yourself.
You played WoW, you know that all the "base" abilities are in the spellbook regardless of the spec you chose. You can still cast heals, just not enough to make you a healer, or a melee healer.
Ret tends to encourage str-crit gear with no mana or int on it, you regain a lot of mana from judgements but you spend just as much doing pew pew, which I must say, shines a little too much. I personally prefer to bandage myself than to heal myself when possible to save mana because of this. If you have gear with more mana you regain a bit more and can cast more heals and spells if you prefer.
Procs from a talent called Art of War give you instant cast on FoL, which is the small heal. It heals for about 1800, most people's HP are in the 15K-25K range.
HL heals for about 5K.
Lay On Hands is a free superheal spell on 20 min cooldown. You can drop that one on someone like you're dropping a miracle or something, does a huge heal+mana restore, it's just it's on a 20 min cooldown so you can't do that continuously.
Divine storm is whirlwind and heals a bit, heals depending on how much damage it did, honestly the amount it heals is very small but it adds up.
It's also very easy to spam judgement of light, it gives a bit of healing if your group is heavy on melee but you'll often prefer to judge wis for the mana return.
In short you're definitely not keeping a tank up with that by a huge margin, but you get some healing effects from your normal Ret spells and you still get your full array of healer spells that you can cast when you want.
Also when you cast judgements your teammates get a buff that regenerates their mana a bit.
Edited, Mar 13th 2009 12:57pm by xorq
To the OP the ret spec has changed a lot since you played. Ret pallys now get a percentage of spell power (30% i think)from your attack power. Therefor as long as you gear correctly for damage your heals will also become more potent as well. Also when a ret pally crit heals a target they get a HOT on top which makes you a valid emergency heals in a pinch. The only limit is the lack of mana pool which can only sustain a chain cast of holy light of about 6 casts not including regen from sources such as judgement of wisdom, divine plea, blessing of wisdom, etc. While not being a consistent of top end healer as a ret spec your utility will definitely be appreciated and the minor heals from divine storm helps out the healers a little.
First, and best, of all: Pvp is great at the momement. Holy aswell as Ret are kicking ***.
Second, If you're looking for something that plays like a warrior-priest, go back to Warhammer Online.
The Paladin is a whole different story. You can do great damage but you won't be able to heal as effectively as a Warrior Priest. Sure you can toss some heals around but it's mostly to just heal yourself while doing some Pvp or soloing some quests or to take a tiny bit of stress away from your main healer during spikes. Warrior-priests are hardened fighters who do both damage and healing at the same time. A Paladin is a true hybrid, you can't do it all at the same time.
Though I would sincerely encourage you to try it out. It may be a whole lot different from a Warrior-Priest but it still kicks *** in my opinion.
,Zig
PS: I have played both games.
Edited, Mar 14th 2009 11:54am by Zignaestos
Second, If you're looking for something that plays like a warrior-priest, go back to Warhammer Online.
The Paladin is a whole different story. You can do great damage but you won't be able to heal as effectively as a Warrior Priest. Sure you can toss some heals around but it's mostly to just heal yourself while doing some Pvp or soloing some quests or to take a tiny bit of stress away from your main healer during spikes. Warrior-priests are hardened fighters who do both damage and healing at the same time. A Paladin is a true hybrid, you can't do it all at the same time.
Though I would sincerely encourage you to try it out. It may be a whole lot different from a Warrior-Priest but it still kicks *** in my opinion.
,Zig
PS: I have played both games.
Edited, Mar 14th 2009 11:54am by Zignaestos
I'm just looking to save someone's *** not wipe it every time they shat themselves because they got caught in a mage's AoE or to throw around a cleanse or two when there are 1-too many debuffs on the priest who is keeping everyone alive.
Also what is the Lake Wintergrasp Siege like? I heard about it and thought it might be fairly close to WAR's large scale sieges.
Also what is the Lake Wintergrasp Siege like? I heard about it and thought it might be fairly close to WAR's large scale sieges.
Personally I think a Blood DK is much more your "Warrior-priest" which uses abilities (like self heals) using runic power generated through combat (same way rage works if im not mistaken). You aren't going to be able to heal other people or have nearly as much utility as a paladin, but DKs are very OP atm.
FYI: you can only make a DK if you have another lvl 55+ on that account.
FYI: you can only make a DK if you have another lvl 55+ on that account.
I absolutely cannot stand DKs. from what I have heard they are the favorite of everyone at blizzard and it is not fair to everyone else who feels like playing a class that isn't the love child of a warrior and a warlock.
Whenever I play a game I always try to choose the character, class, or build that isn't OP and if it is bad enough I will go out of my way to avoid it. I will also take every opportunity I can to beat that char,class, etc to show people it is the skill of the player and not fancy spells or abilities that show how good someone really is.
:rant end:
Bottom line: I feel like being useful to other people and myself
Whenever I play a game I always try to choose the character, class, or build that isn't OP and if it is bad enough I will go out of my way to avoid it. I will also take every opportunity I can to beat that char,class, etc to show people it is the skill of the player and not fancy spells or abilities that show how good someone really is.
:rant end:
Bottom line: I feel like being useful to other people and myself
bamninja wrote:
I absolutely cannot stand DKs. from what I have heard they are the favorite of everyone at blizzard and it is not fair to everyone else who feels like playing a class that isn't the love child of a warrior and a warlock.
People only say that cause DKs are OP right now. People said that about Shaman back in the days before the internal CD on Windfury weapon. People have said that about every class in the game at some point.
If you don't like the DK, that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion :D But, I'd encourage you not to make harsh conclusions based solely on OTHER people's opinions ;)
That said, I'm in agreement here that probably the closest to your Warrior-Priest is going to be the Ret Paladin. But like others have said, you will be able to deal great damage and have few decent heals, or have great heals with not so great damage, or you will have mediocre damage and heals. It's really not possible to do great damage and have great heals at the same time.
Personally, if you want to be useful as a Paladin right now, I'd say go Holy or Prot. Everyone and their mother is DPS, but healers and tanks are hard to come by. That doesn't quite sound like your thing though, but I may be mistaken :)
Edited, Mar 13th 2009 5:18pm by Maulgak
Well With this dual-spec system I keep hearing about it sounds like things won't be such a problem for me anymore. If there is a 5-man team gearing up and they need a good single target healer I just slap on my extra set of gear and then go on my merry way.
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