A Pet QuestionFollow

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Well I have - but feel free to use the text above and save yourself typing

I'm still worrying this problem with not being able to get my pet to tank anywhere near as well as a VW.

I'm taking it as a given that all tenacity pets will be roughly equal in terms of HP and Armor after taming.

The tanking talents seem fairly obvious.

So the only real difference is the "Family Skill" from the different types of beast.

Does anyone have any feedback on the relative effectiveness of these abilities in tanking.

The armor debuff from worms didn't seem to do an awful lot. How does it compare with for example Bad Attitude or Scorpid poison? I'd assume that a DoT is quite useful in adding threat as well as a little damage.

I'm not too keen on AE or knockback so I'll pass on the monkeys and rhinos.

The changes in 3.1 look quite interesting for this tree but I have a quest log I want to clear

I did try duoing one with another hunter but I'm not sure if the resulting failure was due to his pet gorilla not being up to the job or that he was an imbecile. I did start by saying "Keep the pet up and watch threat" which he obviously understood as "start blazing away with your Nessingwary 4k before your pet has any aggro and lets all run around like headless chickens". Given this performance it is perfectly possible he had spent his pets talents strangely. I'd soloed this mob (Rider of Frost) quite easily with my warlock and I really, really want to do it with my hunter.

Well I apologise for sullying your forum with the question which you haven't answered.

I was hoping for some feedback from people who have actually used such pets. I know there was someone posting about a croc the other day.

This is not answered in the FAQ - or I wouldn't have asked.

Your answer seems to be "Go somewhere else (EJ) where they talk about these things"

Well why don't we talk about them here?

Like why will it be Bear > everything?

Is that some sort of given we should all know?

Ok. Lesson learned. Allakhazam isn't the place to ask questions any more.

It's not the simple questions I mind so much as the incessant whining.

If you really want someone to sit down and have a well thought out discussion with you, there has to be something there already. You just asked simple questions. Why not spend a little more time, link some abilities, and have a theory. That kind of post would likely get a different response.

Edited, Mar 13th 2009 9:20am by Xsarus

So if you did know some of the background information and had some ideas, why didn't you put that in the OP? Why didn't you try some math out to see how the pets compared? We had this thread a month or two back, so I don't really feel like redoing the math, but I'd enjoy seeing some of it worked out again.

Maybe ask a specific question about swipe if you're not convinced about it. Come up with a theory. If you want discussion that will get it started. Otherwise I (or Aeithien or whoever) have to go and do all the research, pull up all the numbers, and frankly seeing as We've done this before, We're much more likely to just refer you to a place which already has some of that worked out.

Edited, Mar 13th 2009 10:36am by Xsarus

What do you mean my turtle will never have 75,000 HP like a blueberry?!?

Not very fair indeed :(

Gorillas are without question the best tanking pets we have available right now; they have excellent single-target and multi-mob tanking. Asking what the best tanking pet is and then refusing to acknowledge the obvious answer because you "don't like aoe" is a bit silly. You are going to have to fight multiple mobs at some point, and if you hate AoE that much, I think you're going to be very disappointed when you start raiding. (Throwing up a little every time an ugly ape scratches his bum is an acceptable excuse, however.)

Right now the two pets I have seen being suggested as best tanking pets after 3.1 hits are the Bear and Crocolisk due to the multiple-target nature of their family skills--since the Crocolisk's ability relies upon it being struck in combat, it appears that the Bear will be the most effective tank (that is, if you pull aggro it will still able to use all of its abilities). I'm not sure how you managed to miss all the discussion over this, but I would recommend that you start reading the comments on BRK and Mania's blogs as well as the posts.

Debuffs in general are useful because they enable your pet to do more damage as well as you--I can't really say whether they are an awesome tanking choice or not, I have heard that the Worm's ability is pretty similar to Sunder Armor but I am unsure whether it has the same additional threat component. As for the Scorpid, I would shy away from a DoT on principle, since my main method of managing multiple mobs is trapping, and I would rather not have anything on the mobs I am fighting that could interfere with that.

I think it would probably be better for Cobra101 to test out a few different tank type pets to see just how effective they are , at the moment as has already been said many times Gorillas rule by a long way .

I did some test farming with my pets: Cat , WarpStalker , Silithid , Wasp and my gorilla in a cave in the plaguelands , so ran it several times with each pet and the results were surprising as the gorilla did far more damage than i thought possible and as i was on easy mode ( using very few specials ) i was surprised to see my combined damage was about 75-100 dps better with the gorilla over time by using recount to keep a check.

So i advise anyone that wants to know which pet is better to just go out and try a few , but until the next big patch goes live it has to be a gorilla for tanking.

I was responding to

I always used my cat on raids.

This was just about a tanking pet for soloing but I think I've had the answers I needed.

I like polar bears