Hunter in BGs at level 77-79 - your experiencesFollow

As the title says - have you played BGs with your hunter at level 77-79 and if yes, what are your experiences?
Level 69 was great in TBC, but then DK came in (although it is far from 50s bracket, it is still annoying). I'm not sure if I should level my hunter to 79, so I seek for input on your 77-79 experience :)
I'm not talking only whether DKs are still overpowered, I'm talking overall experience with hunter class in BGs at 77-79.
Thanks in advance!

Why would you stop leveling at that point? Just get to 80 and get some pvp gear. I'm confused as to what you're trying to do.

I am going to go out on a limb here and I will probably get yelled at, howver, if you want advice on mediocrity try the official WoW forums. That place is a festering cesspit of idiocy and sub-par intelligence. They should be right at about the same level for what you are asking.

Oddly I choose to play a class to what it is capable of and to try and exceed "limits". You want to essentially make a level 79 "twink", to that I suggest you do so but dont come here for help or advice. I have found that people here who actually have a clue will only try to help you better yourself as a hunter, which is obviously not what you want. You seem to want to hover in limbo and be some uber 79 BG monster! Kinda like the winner of the special olympics, you still won, but.....

I suppose the main point I was getting to about the 77-79 BG bracket was, who freaking cares?

Spec SV/MM, drop frost straps to trigger LnL, use EX-shot and kill people. I know on my battlegroup the wait for those BG's is stupid long because... no one freaking cares about it.

And as in any BG level bracket, the good players will rise above the rest, big surprise there.

I'll add something constructive:

Why don't you just level up to 80 and PvP there?
Swiftarrow set isn't bad at 80 and you'll actually be able to use the honor you're getting for something.

Ok, you seem rather thick. However I will try to answer your question.

I have no experience in the 70-79 bracket. I actually doubt you will find anyone else here who has extensive time in said bracket. However, I see no reason why a hunter would be at any severe disadvantage. The only spell/talent you are totally missing in freezing arrow, not a huge pvp spell anyway. I believe most armor classes (cloth, leather etc) have a level 78 version that is pvp based. So you will lumped in on fairly equal gear footing. As I have said before, player skill will be, as always, the deciding factor. So go and try it, go see for yourself.

I take it that by doing so your hunter will become the toon you play when youa re bored and used only for bg's. If that is your plan then that is rather sad. Hunter BG/WG pvp is actually quite fun at level 80, and as Aethien has pointed out you wont be able to purchase any really useful pvp gear with all the honor you are going to stock up.

So:

A little bit, it all comes down to player skill with gear being mostly equal, some classes will destroy you, some will be very easy.



My imput for the 79 bracket is that it is a waste of time, you could spend that time leveling and have an 80, which you can gear up with better pvp gear. If you want to stay below 80 do so then, i think you will get bored.




Players are OP, not classes. And you seem to be the first person I have met in forums or in game who cares at all about pvp at level 79.

I think the point that those of you supporting the OP's position are missing is that there's nothing stopping you from exclusively doing BGs at 80, either. Stopping a level short of the best honor rewards (and there are still many you can get strictly via honor/marks) is...confusing, at best, dumb at worst.

Just because you hit 80 doesn't mean you're somehow forced into Arena, raids, or heroics. Set your own goals, and have fun with the game! But trying to fit a square peg into a round hole just doesn't make sense. Who knows, maybe someday you'll find yourself in a BG with some folks that you really enjoy playing with and they ask you to join their guild. I never thought I'd really get into the heroic/raid scene since I play a few days a week at best, and this expansion has taught me differently. What you do with your time in game is your decision, even if that means stopping at 79 to bg...but don't be surprised when you get some odd looks and critical remarks for it, and try not to be so one-track-minded about it or you might just find those tracks derailing.

OK, guys, I think I overestimated this forum, but nevertheless it deserves a final reply.

The reason I’m writing this is because I remembered a topic on a similar wow forum in which guy wanted a recommendation of gear for his 69 level warrior in order to do BGs. A few guys started writing about how good was the decision, the usual “what would I do, although it has nothing to do with your actual question” type of posts. Then I came and listed gear and enchants/gems that I was using on my 69 warrior, he thanked, said it was the only useful post, and left. The thing is that I wish I could say that for at least one post here.

Yet, I feel like I should at least write down one more reply, explaining what it is all about. There are few things that no one present here grasped, simply because they are not “usual wow behavior”. Usual would be getting to max level and grind daily, whether it is BG, Arena, 5mans, raids… You seem like you can’t comprehend that someone wants to make a character which would not be played daily – but with week-or-two breaks. That is already “weird/crazy” for the standard wow-addict. Next thing is that no one cares about “accomplishments” at level 78 – guys I could not care less about 80-level “accomplishments”, Arena ratings, epic gear and whatnot. I also couldn’t care less what is obtainable with all the honor I will get (already been there, I played BGs at 68), which is also crazy – having honor and not being forced to spend it (even if spending means getting to level at which grind is mandatory).

In a word – making this game only fun and no grind seems insane. OK, maybe playing game for fun (instead of working for it) is crazy?


And you actually bothered to write several posts, nevertheless? That does not sound reasonable to me, sound just like getting some attention (as it was seen above). Also, I feel like leveling 68 to 78 is a waste of time if I don’t get what I’d like, so I wanted to get some input on 78 level hunter in BGs.

I already play WoW only when I’m bored – so that is implied. And I could not care less about honor that I get – simply because I am not interested in spending it.

And 80 is not? WoW is a waste of time, no matter the level.

Classes can be OP or underpowered, both in PvP and PvE, which is the reason behind all the nerfs and buffs Blizzard is doing.

This guys understood it. He would not do the same, but still gets my point. The funny thing is that I do not get it how the rest of posters did not understand, since it was written in plain English in posts above (although it is not my native language)

Check post before yours (by Xsarus)

That's it. Thanks for reading.
Best regards.

you're pretty much an idiot aren't you Norellicus?

If you don't do all these things you will be at a huge gear disadvantage. A disadvantage that will not exist at 79 with the crafted pvp gear.

Your reasoning is flawed, not his. His reasoning is pretty straightforward. I still think that you'd have more fun at 80. My reasoning behind this is that there will be more people to play with. I can't imaging the 70-79 bg's are full of people, and gear doesn't make as much of a difference in bg's like it does in arena's.

Honestly for me progressing my character is what I like, as well as seeing new content, so to sit at 79 makes no sense for me. However there is nothing wrong with his point.

Edited, Mar 11th 2009 10:27am by Xsarus

I'm not going to say this applies to all that posted here, but from reading and rereading this thread I see some differing sides. Most of the people who actively post here use their hunters as their main- if not they do use them as a "regular alt". They want to upgrade their gear and get all the nice shiny sparklies that hunters can have. I for one have not been an avid PvPr, I only PvP when I'm bored or have constraints on time. As such, it never occurred to me to BG less than 70 or 80 or to make a twink. PvP came after I made the herculean push to those levels (and believe me, finding time to level with my RL was a pain). It would seem more logical to me to push to 80 and then enter the PvP circuit. I think that is the underlying mentality of many posters.

On the other hand, my best friend shied away from PvE and loved PvP. Playing against other random, intelligent beings appealed to him. He started making twinks for every bracket and had a ton of fun. Level and end-game didn't matter to him. I put you in this bracket. It is hard for many to tell you what to expect because (at least in my case) we didn't take time to dabble in BGs at those levels.

So the only advice I can give you is:
Armor: Swiftarrow crafted seems the best starting PvP at that level
Weapon: I think the best hunter weapon at the level is the gun out of Violet Hold
Melee Weapons: These would have a ton of different opinions. Since you only need 5% hit for PvP I would focus on statsticks and get an accuracy enchant (or even weapon chains if you are low on cash)

Build: It really depends on your PvP focus. If you are looking for arena, then SV with CC options is the best. If you are just looking BGs you could even do BM instead of only SV (sometimes that 20sec BW will win a skirmish).

I hope this helps...

Well I wouldn't know at 79 but DK's are fairly easy to kite if you've got skill.
the things I'm afraid of at 80 are Retadins, mages, retadins, resto shamans and retadins.