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#1 Mar 05 2009 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
this is primarily a thread on warlock pets and their respective benefits/downfalls per situation. please feel free to add if you like. i am in no way a wow god.

firstly i will go over each pet and their respective buffs and damage abilities.

Imp- a small and fairly balanced pet. its abilities are fireball, phase shift, fire shield, and blood pact. Fireball is his general attack spell, hitting fairly decently, and with certain talents can be buffed to attack faster. Phase shift is an ability that makes the imp himself (not you) completely immune to all attacks to include AOE, unless he attacks. Fire Shield is a castable buff on party members that applies a damaging shield around the castee, a good way to help a tank generate just that little bit extra agro. and the largest reason an imp will be used, blood pact, when the imp is summoned he will increase the health of all party (or raid. not sure.) members by a certain amount. at 80 my imp will increase health by over 1k.

Voidwalker- the second pet a warlock will obtain. this is a tanking pet. he doesnt deal a whole lot of damage, but can take a beating. with abilities like torment which will taunt the target. making it more likely to attack the void walker. next he has the ability suffering which is an AOE taunt. it does the same thing as torment but to all enemies with in ten yards. next is consume shadows. when activated it will heal the void walker for a scaled amount depending on talent level. it also will increase your stealth detection. and lastly is sacrafice. you instantly sacrafice you void walker and in return you are given a shield that protects you for a set amount of damage or 30 seconds. higher levels will increase damage absorbed also with talents. as my spec when i sac my blueberry the shield will absorb 30K damage. through talents and what not.

Sucubus- the third pet a warlock will obtain. this is a DPS pet which produces higher damage than the imp but cannot take as much damage as the void walker. first ability this pet has is Lash of Pain, which instantly attacks the target for a certain amount of damage as shadow damage. through talents the cooldown on this ability can be reduced. next is lesser invisability, pretty much your pet becomes invisible for five minutes or until she enters combat. next is seduction which will seduce a target making the unable to do any attacks or spells for up to 15 seconds. a trinket can break this. if you are an alliance lock will of the forsaken will break this also. it is classified as a charm. next is soothing kiss. this ability will sooth the target making it less likely to attack the sucubus. the reason this pet isnt a good solo pet IMO.

Felhunter- the fourth pet a warlock can obtain. the felhunter is a caster counter class pet. with abilities that can spell lock, removed buffs from enemies, and debuffs from the warlock, and heal himself. first is devour magic which will purge one harmful magic affect from a friend, or one beneficial magic affect from an enemy. if the magic affect is devoured the fel hunter will be healed for a set amount increased by spell level. next is fel lintellect which increases the intellect of party or raid members by a set ammount increased by talents and spell level. next is shadow bite. an instant attack that deal set damage as shadow and is increased by the number of DoT you have on the target. in pvp this pet is best for affliction locks. and finnaly spell lock. instantly interrupt silencing them, and if used when casting,it will prevent that school of magic from being cast for 6 seconds.

Felguard (demonology spec only)- the felguard. there a demonology talent spec a warlock can obtain this pet. by far the strongest of all the pets with the highest base damage and dps through out. with abilities like anguish, cleave, intercept, and a passive ability called demonic frenzy. Anquish is and ability that will taunt the target, making more likely to attack the felguard. cleave is and AOE swipe that will attack three targets infront of the felguard. intercept is the same thing as a warriors charge, the fel guard will charge the enemy dealing base damage, increased by talant level, and stunning the target for three seconds. now demonic frenzy is a passibe ability that when the felguard attacks it will increase his attack power by 5% for ten seconds, the ability stacks ten times. all new attacks refresh the timer. with three points into demonic brutality it will increase his attack power by 80%. also with the glyph of felguard it will add 20% base attack power to him.

these are just some of the abilities of the pets. i will post another thread about the situations that each pet will be more resourceful than the other.
#2 Mar 06 2009 at 2:18 AM Rating: Good
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Don't you forget the Infernal and the Doomguard ;)
#3 Mar 06 2009 at 7:00 AM Rating: Default
Ok seriously there is more than enough information available to people to find out what warlock pets do and what buffs they provide. But if you are so compelled to write a pet guide please at least provide all information with regards to the pets. Eg. fel intellect also provides a spirit buff not just intellect.

Also you might want to include the situational uses for pets in PvE and PvP.
#4 Mar 15 2009 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
noccy is the exact reason why i feel like quiting wow. the game has become way to easy and requires no thinking what so ever. prebc was the true world of warcraft. now we have these "i know everything players" that just end up getting run throughs until they are 80 and dont know how to play thier respective class and ruin it for everyone. if you read the thread you would have seen "feel free to add anything. i am in no way a wow god." so before you go and say something about someone try doing a little research. i didnt start this thread to show how much i know about a certain thing. some one asked for a thread on pets and i did to the best of my ability to help that person. i could have easily said "hey noob go read a book" but no thats a little mean and uncalled for. if you feel like i am wrong in saying the game has become way to easy and doesnt require thinking play a 0/41/30 warlock. its simple CoA corrup immo incin pet demo empower rinse and repeat. so what i left out a spirit buff from fel intelect sorry. get over it. jesus.

oh btw to Wortschmied i didnt forget about the infernal and doomguard persay. i left them out due to the fact that they are a relatively difficult pet to get. (PREBC) and they are only usable for a short duration. but thank you for the input.

p.s. alliance sucks
p.s.s. go horde.
#5 Mar 16 2009 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
urnightmare wrote:
the game has become way to easy and requires no thinking what so ever.

If this is true, why did you feel the need to write a guide?

In any case, Noccy is correct is stating that the guide is incomplete. At the very least, you should note the talents and glyphs that enhance the various pets. Funny, but I didn't find the Infernal as "a relatively difficult pet to get". Of course, they are short duration, but then again, so are the "temporary pets" you get from Enslave Demon (which you also failed to mention).
#6 Mar 16 2009 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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This "guide" is incredibly... not guide-ish. Face it, Allakhazam is not the first place new players come to. If anything they'll hit wowwiki or wowhead first, as they have "wow" in the name (well, so does wow.allakhazam.com, but that's a mouthful). Those sites would give them more information than yours.

A good way to update this guide would be to include coefficients that pets get with, say, your SP/hit/haste. Then show some WWS or recounts of your pet DPS on training dummies. Then show WWS for the pets in real raid instances. Talk about the pros and cons of using a pet at a given time; for example, when it is worth it to summon an infernal at Patchwerk? Should you summon Doomguard during Loatheb, Sapphiron, or Kel'Thuzad? Is it EVER worth it to summon these situational pets as Demonology, when they do not gain the bonuses your "normal" pets do?

There is a need for a guide to warlock pets, but not an introductory.

Your post shows some promise; for example, you talk about how much health blood pact gives, or how much of a shield your VW gives. Some information is wrong (or so I think; please let me know if it's actually right): Succubus, for example, has Seduction, but it only lasts 10 seconds in PvP, not 15, and has diminishing returns as well as the ability to be trinketed out of. You mention she isn't a good pet for soloing... why? What's her DPS? What spec could conceivably use her? In what situations? Same with felhunter: why is he the best (yes, one could deduce, but you're making a guide: set it out!). What's a felpuppy's DPS? Is it good in PvE too, and under what conditions?

Felguard info is also wrong. It is NOT the strongest of all pets (Infernal has highest DPS, followed by Doomguard).


My last issue is with your statement:
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these are just some of the abilities of the pets. i will post another thread about the situations that each pet will be more resourceful than the other.


Why couldn't you do it all at once? This is a nice introduction, but has some wrong information and is nowhere near a guide status. People usually research, write the guy, and then post it. You seem to have placed a placeholder stub.

I'm not rating you yet, going to see if you can fix it up. Again, it has potential... but that's about it.
#7 Mar 16 2009 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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urnightmare wrote:
noccy is the exact reason why i feel like quiting wow. the game has become way to easy and requires no thinking what so ever. prebc was the true world of warcraft. now we have these "i know everything players" that just end up getting run throughs until they are 80 and dont know how to play thier respective class and ruin it for everyone. if you read the thread you would have seen "feel free to add anything. i am in no way a wow god." so before you go and say something about someone try doing a little research. i didnt start this thread to show how much i know about a certain thing. some one asked for a thread on pets and i did to the best of my ability to help that person. i could have easily said "hey noob go read a book" but no thats a little mean and uncalled for. if you feel like i am wrong in saying the game has become way to easy and doesnt require thinking play a 0/41/30 warlock. its simple CoA corrup immo incin pet demo empower rinse and repeat. so what i left out a spirit buff from fel intelect sorry. get over it. jesus.

oh btw to Wortschmied i didnt forget about the infernal and doomguard persay. i left them out due to the fact that they are a relatively difficult pet to get. (PREBC) and they are only usable for a short duration. but thank you for the input.

p.s. alliance sucks
p.s.s. go horde.


You made a pet thread and deliberately left out two pets? Maybe I was wrong in saying this had potential... as for the emo fest, there is ALWAYS theorycrafting to be done, especially as new patches come out and the game constantly changes. The game is easy, but has a lot of nuances and surprising effects. For example, you obviously feel it's easy, but disregard two of the best pets because of their limited duration. That's something your guide should hope to minimize.
#8 Mar 16 2009 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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urnightmare wrote:
oh btw to Wortschmied i didnt forget about the infernal and doomguard persay. i left them out due to the fact that they are a relatively difficult pet to get. (PREBC) and they are only usable for a short duration. but thank you for the input.


Difficult to get? What are you talking about? The infernal quest and the Doomguard were cake. If you are level 80 you could probably do both in under 2 hours (I say 2 because of the amount of traveling required).

Both are incredibly useful even if they are only for a short duration. I use doomguards constantly and the Infernal is just handy to throw out once in a while when your normal pet bites it.
#9 Mar 16 2009 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
People, the thread started said they weren't a "WoW god", so instead of insults, why not assist in the guide? It can't hurt to have a pet guide on here.
#10 Mar 16 2009 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
to Aniclator: as i stated in the thread *PREBC*, these pets were difficult to get. at 51 one i got my infernal and had the help of 70's it was difficult. that was during Burning crusades. the doomguard prebc was also a very difficult pet to aquire. due to the fact that it was a random tome drop off the elite felguards in the blasted lands on the way to Doomlord Kazak.

Secondly i also stated "feel free to add." for some one just starting a lock they wont be thinking of the doomguard and infernal. someone asked for help on the pets. i tried to help.

finnaly the reason i didnt go so in detail with this thread was because i was writing it at work and im in the military and didnt want to be sitting on the comp for a **** load of time.

IMO i think the game has become very easy. i have found myself getting more and more bored with my class. just to be top of the list dps wise. prior to BC the game took a lot more thinking than now. you really dont see that much CC in a instance as much as you used to. now IMO its just pull and aoe.

P.S. NO WHERE in my THREAD did i say that it was a GUIDE. Noccy stated it as a guide.
#11 Mar 17 2009 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
Granted you didn't intend this to be a guide, I still feel it wouldn't hurt to have a pet guide. All we have is a build guide, which last I checked, didn't go into great detail about each pet.

Also, if you're bored with the class, maybe it's time to switch specs. Try new builds. Something to make it fun again.
#12 Mar 18 2009 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
handsofdeath: its like you read my mind. i respeced full destro and now im having a blast. i guess it was the rotation i was getting hung up on. with the new spec im not top of the list dps but i really dont care all that much. im going to iraq soon so yeah. thanks for the advice.
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