Rogue PvE Spec, please help!Follow

Read stickies!

Linking his/her armory would be nice too.

I enjoy these 'my friend needs help plz help!' posts....

Is it that out of the question to say either do the research yourself (Elitist Jerks is a good place to look if you don't mind taking the 30 mins and reading through it.. you should have be able to figure out that after looking for longer than 10 minutes), or at the very least giving us more than just "My friends dps is low, fix it please"? Don't be surprised if you don't get a solid answer if you don't put any effort in yourself.


...And just cause I know you'll probably react negativly to being told off, tell your friend to get 2 fast daggers, go 51/13/7, and go look at ej.com to figure out the rotations and specifics

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 10:36pm by XxwrathofcarbunclexX

The Rogue Compendium actually has mutilate PvE specs in it. Tell her to buy two Librarian's Paper Cutters (should be 100g each) and put something like 50AP on each (cuz it's cheap).

Garbage in, Garbage out.

Look, man, if you read through a little bit, you'll see a ton of other trash threads just like this, it gets seriously wearing after a while.

I have never looked up specs on this forum before (I usually get them straight from EJ, just like some of the people here), so I decided to try an experiment.

I went to the main rogue page, looked at the top.

There's a thread called "The Rogue Compendium" -> Clicked it.

Right there at the top! A list of things about rogues -> #8, WOTLK SPECS. It has links to the best current assassination and combat PVE specs.

Took me less than 20 seconds.


Sorry if people get a little pissy when it comes across that you're not willing to put in any of the effort the rest of us do. Guess we're asshats.

You're welcome for our ***-hattery! Thanks for noticing! =P

But seriously... It's how you phrased it Vehem. I would have gone with "I read the stickies and still have questions I'm also not sure if the stickies are up to date...." kinda thing to help avoid the types of responses you got. Had I seen this thread earlier, my first response would have been "read the stickies" same as above. We see these types of threads often enough that it's become knee-jerk. The stickies are there to answer these types of basic questions, albeit not as efficiently as they could. But they're what we haz.

Also, it would have gone better if there were armory links, or WWS, etc. Terms like "...not doing the dps [sic] they should be." don't have anything for us to really sink our teeth into as far as facts. The more experienced players who post here tend to be "like that". We like facts and numbers and stuff.

With that said:

The builds Souliken linked are reasonably standard right now for PvE raiding but they will change likely with the next content patch. Note that Turn the Tables points should be moved to Master Poisoner if there is no Ret Pally or Shaman providing the buff (both will knock ours off). Also note that, iirc, both of those exact builds are in the stickies (I want to say that I posted them, but I'm guessing Theo beat me to it, jerk-face). Also note that there are some points (like Improved Poisons) whick could be debated, but that's more a min/max thing for end-game raiding. =) The ones linked are a great way to start.

Your rogue should absolutely be able to read up and improve. Rogue mechanics are extremely well-covered (here and Elitist Jerks should be a solid start) and there is no excuse soever for any raiding rogue to not be able to perform well with the mounds of information out there. Tell them to get off their ***. If you want to excel at anything, you need to learn about it. Same with raiding as anything else.

And, hey! Don't take forum posting so serious! We're all asshats sometimes! (Mostly me, but.... y'know)

Lies. You would have said, "Spreadsheet"

Not sure it was mentioned in other posts, but the Sticky is updated you just have to read through the posts. Also, if you do that you might learn a little more than you came to look for.

So I was...97%...wait...90% correct. Lol But no ones perfect.

E-sex is the best. You don't have to worry about STD's or anything like that. Heck, you don't even have to worry about how you are going to get her out of your house the next day either.

The question I always ask myself when someone comes here seeking information "for their friend". The response is typically that said friend doesn't have time to look it up themselves, which is just silly. If you have time to sit there and play WoW, you have the time (about 20 minutes at the most) to look up the basics of your particular class. In fact, getting someone to post your questions for you takes longer by far, because you have to wait for people to respond, then deal with varying opinions on the matter, and finally wait for your friend to get back to you, hoping they understood what was being said since nine times out of ten the friend being asked for assistance has never played your class before. But hey, if it isn't wasting your own time then I guess it doesn't matter, huh? You can freely suck at your class for as long as it takes for someone to get back to you.

Helping people be lazy (which is exactly what you do when you don't tell your friends to research their own damn class) is only helping them **** over every group they get in the future because they have no clue what they're doing. Don't help those who refuse to help themselves! Stop the cycle!

Yes my friend is in fact a girl. She is actually my best friends girlfriend also. She is fairly new to the game and she doesn't really understand a whole lot about the technical numbering that goes into everything. Example I had to explain why Hit rating and expertise rating were useful for her class since she has absolutely none. No I'm not trying to get E-laid.... lol. I just want this person to be able to be efficient in raids and be able to do the max dps possible. Why I didn't post her Armory..... Because her and I both know it's not for PvE. Also her build wasn't important to the question I asked. I just wanted to know what a viable PvE spec was ATM.

Actually I lose 20dps by replacing my titansteel shanker MH with a LBC, (oh is LBC) both with Mongoose, according to the spreadsheet. Which is why I haven't replaced it yet, any thoughts?

I've been on my hunter a lot like I told you in the PM a while back. Although, my friends have conned me into getting a new account and doing the RaF thing again /sigh

I'm currently rolling Feyras a level 44(atm) Human(I know alliance, but wanted the human racials) Pally. I was getting tired of my rogues guilds loot system anyways.

Who knows I have a hidden Pally I'm leveling that is Belf, and might /w you sweet little nothings sometime.



Ok, you got me. I'm not sure. I just have read up on Shadowpanther that the MAEP rating is higher on the LPC's. I guess, if that is what the spreadsheet says it is true /shrug