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#1 Feb 25 2009 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
Hi!
My name is Vlad. I have a rogue 80 almost full t7. But recently I have decided to make an alt char. I want a hybrid class because i want to be able to respec at any time if i got bored with my current specialization. So I have been choosing between Paladin and Druid for the last month and I cant make my mind which character to play!(((( Can you giva some advice? I would be very greatful!!!
Sorry for any possible mistakes I am just learning English)

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 12:32pm by Bakeforfun
#2 Feb 25 2009 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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Pick druid, you can tank anything, you can be rogue-like in cat form, you can caster DPS as a Boomkin, and you can heal like a god.

Seriously, you'll never want to play any other toon again....
#3 Feb 25 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
I've been looking forward to this post!!!))) I think i've almost made my mind)
But what about pal? Can't he do the same things as Druid? The thing i really dislike in Pals is the necessity to keep an eye on suitable buffs on everyone in the party...

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 1:04pm by Bakeforfun
#4 Feb 25 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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You come here to the Druids forums, so you have to expect people to recommend Druid over Pally in general. You should tell us what would interest you, because while both classes are very different, they are also similar as they can fill almost the same roles. The only difference is that Druid is the most hybrid of all classes in the sense that they can spec for all 4 roles (Tank, healer, MDPS, RDPS) whereas a Pally can only spec for 3 (Tank, healer, MDPS).

If you want a class just to mess around and really be able to try out *all* roles, go with the Druid. Be advised, however, that the Druid's Cat Form works much like a Rogue, so it may be redundant. You get the form at 20 and should use it til 40 where you can choose between staying Feral or going Balance. You will probably want to stay away from deep Resto for leveling unless speed is not an issue and you just want to check out the various specs.

A very brief summary (mostly in a raid environment):

Tanking: Pallies will excel at AoE tanking and still be very good for single-target while Druids will do better against single-target than AoE pulls, since our "AoE threat" is in fact a cone.

Healing: Pallies are mostly used for single-target healing and are very good and efficient at it. A Druid will also be able to single-target heal very well, but will also find that he is incredible at keeping multiple people up at the same time (known as "float healing").

MDPS: Pallies (bit rusty on this, haven't looked at the changes since WotLK) will use two-handed weapons to hit slow and strong and will use a mana bar to supply their skills. Druids, as I said above, will use an Energy system like Rogues and will have access to similar skills as well, though far from being as varied.

RDPS: Pallies can't do that. Balance Druids are to Mage pretty much what Cat Druids are to Rogues. You get spells like a Mage, but with much less variety.

Both classes have buffs and utility which I suggest you look up on your own or discover as you level.

I hope this helps a bit. Just let us know what more you would want to know, as there are too many differences between the classes to list them.

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The thing i really dislike in Pals is the necessity to keep an eye on suitable buffs on everyone in the party...

Yeah, I disliked that too. You have to sync with other Pallies to make sure you don't override anyone's buff. To be fair, though, there are less buffs now so it's really not that hard. Just a pain that the buffs have a shorter duration than most other buffs.

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 12:11pm by Selverein
#5 Feb 25 2009 at 10:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think Selverein hit it pretty much on the head.

Most of us run around with anywhere from 1-3 sets of gear and the knowledge on how to use those sets.

It's a little more time intensive to learn to do 3-4 different things with one character, but there-in lies the greatness of it.

You can also read over some of the druid stickies and posts in this forum. We talk about a lot of the mechanics of each spec and normally we break it down into layman terms for everyone.

Love this drood community! :P
#6 Feb 25 2009 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
I am planning to become a restore at 80.
The speed and the simplicity of levelling doesn't really bother me, because I have recently made an 'invite a friend ' feature with myself)) so I play in 3 windows)) 1 - for dru (may be pal I am still thinking abount it))) 2 -for the second char for 3x rate and 3 - for my father's mage 80 for fast levelling.
Can you say some words about the gameplay style of dru and pal? I'm more inerestd in it than in their efficiency, because it's only a question of 1 nerf.
e.g. retriks are nerfed in 3.1.0

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 1:34pm by Bakeforfun
#7 Feb 25 2009 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
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I am planning to become a restore at 80.
The speed and the simplicity of levelling doesn't really bother me, because I have recently made an 'invite a friend ' feature with myself)) so I play in 3 windows)) 1 - for dru (may be pal I am still thinking abount it))) 2 -for the second char for 3x rate and 3 - for my father's mage 80 for fast levelling.
Can you say some words about the gameplay style of dru and pal? I'm more inerestd in it than in their efficiency, because it's only a question of 1 nerf.
e.g. retriks are nerfed in 3.1.0

Try to be a bit more precise in asking what you want to know.

Gameplay style... you mean for a Resto Druid or while leveling?

Resto means you're stacking Lifebloom x3 on tanks along with Rejuv while using your other healing spells as the situation dictates. Basically your most-used spells are instant so it allows for a lot of mobility. You can also just slap a Rejuv on a DPSer who's taking minor damage from a boss' AoE or something like that.

While leveling, it'll depend on the spec you choose. I gave you a summary of the play styles in my previous post. At first you won't have any Feral form so it's just a matter of spamming Wrath and using Moonfire/Roots to kill things. At level 10 you do a quest to get Bear Form (Rage mechanics like a Warrior, increased armor) which you will find more or less useful for leveling, as it is not made for DPS but will be more useful than casting if you start putting points into Feral. When you get to 20, you can train Cat Form, which is awesome and allows you to fly through levels. At 40 you can respec to Balance and get Moonkin Form or continue Feral if you prefer. Beyond that point it's really up to you.

As a Pally, I did 1-40 as Retri. It was alright, but way too much based on Seal of Crusader proccing extra damage. At 40 I did Prot which was fun and allowed me to grind mobs really efficiently, taking on groups of 10+ mobs at once. At 60 when I got to Outland I went Holy and did 60-70 like that and healed in raids for a bit.

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 1:12pm by Selverein
#8 Feb 25 2009 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you all very much!!! Especially Selverein!)
Finally, I decided to play as a druid!!)
Selverein, as I've understood you have both pally and druid? So which of them do you like more?
#9 Feb 25 2009 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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My Druid, by leaps and bounds.

I'm a huge fan of mobility and it is one of the Druid's strengths. I also love Bear Tanking and Cat DPSing as far as general mechanics are concerned. I just love the raw stats on a Bear, they're like monsters.

I really liked Pally healing though, but in some encounters the lack of instant casts and heals over time was really hurting my usefulness. I haven't tried serious Resto healing yet, but I am looking forward to it to compare.

Oh and instant Flight Form is absolutely priceless, especially on a PvP server.
#10 Feb 25 2009 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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Heh, selverin is right.

/castsequence reset=target Shadowmeld, Swift Flight Form

Good bye would be gankers.
#11 Feb 26 2009 at 5:23 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I'm a Tauren so I can't do that. :P

But, little anecdote here...

I was in Icecrown, doing dailies. Was on that quest where you use a mounted turret to take down Proto-Drakes and their riders. When I got to one of the spots, I noticed an Alliance Rogue already on a turret on the opposite end of the balcony. I really don't like people attacking me while I quest, especially if I'm already fighting mobs, it's annoying and cheap. So I don't do it either, and just proceeded to use a turret to kill the drakes.

Well, seems like the Rogue went "lawlzorz stoopid horde didtnt c meh!" and attacked me after he got done with the same quest. It takes time to get off a vehicle, so I was already down some 20ish% when I could control my character again, and the Rogue was using lots of stuns. So I jumped down! I started spamming my shapeshift hotkey and I shifted to flight form a few seconds before hitting the ground.

I then proceeded to kill the Rogue 2 or 3 times as he was questing around, to give him a taste of what it's like.

Good times!

Edited, Feb 26th 2009 7:25am by Selverein
#12 Mar 03 2009 at 12:30 AM Rating: Default
sorry, can not help you.
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