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#1 Feb 22 2009 at 5:20 PM Rating: Default
I have 4k ap unbuffed and up to 6.5k in raids! I don't know what to do with myself

I've never really raided before wrath and my hunter was my first level 70. If I get another epic my head might explode.
#2 Feb 22 2009 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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My brother has 7767 self-buffed.

Suck it. Smiley: grin
#3 Feb 22 2009 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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Feral druid?


Outside of that, I've been at nearly 7k AP and 100+% crit vs Loatheb and then I'm just in 10 man gear.
#4 Feb 22 2009 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Feral druid?

Yeah.

Main feral druid in a guild with 3 drake OS down.
#5 Feb 22 2009 at 6:01 PM Rating: Default
Aethien I can't seem to find you on the armory, do you think you could link your hunter?
#6 Feb 22 2009 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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What's people's obsession with seeing my armory?
I'm not some sort of hunter god or something and my gear is far from special.

Ah well, Here's me.
That said, I don't have my EoValor cloak equipped yet as there was no enchanter in sight or a cloak enchant on the AH.
#7 Feb 22 2009 at 6:33 PM Rating: Default
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What's people's obsession with seeing my armory?
I'm not some sort of hunter god or something and my gear is far from special.

Ah well, Here's me.
That said, I don't have my EoValor cloak equipped yet as there was no enchanter in sight or a cloak enchant on the AH.


Lol no wonder I can't find you, it's taking forever and a day to load :P

hmmmmm... I must be doing something wrong because my gear seems to be around yours or just under it. What priority do you keep your shots in?

I tend to start with explosive-serphent- steady- aimed- steady- explosive- steady- steady- aimed- serphent- steady explosive
and it goes on and on :P
#8 Feb 22 2009 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Not to be a spelling ****, but it is spelled "serpent", not "serphent". If that was even a word it would imply that you would pronounce the word "Ser-fent", a little odd don't you think?
#9 Feb 22 2009 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Not to be a spelling ****, but it is spelled "serpent", not "serphent". If that was even a word it would imply that you would pronounce the word "Ser-fent", a little odd don't you think?


Lol, I apologize I type to quick for my brain to keep up. Not to mention I'm a terrible speller unless I use the word often. Finally I would prefer to use snake instead of serpent, oh well though. Ty though for pointing it out.
#10 Feb 22 2009 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
I know what you mean. In BC I was in a lame guild that never left Kara/Gruul/Mag. Now that Wrath hit I'm in a full on raiding guild, who got me most of my gear in just 2 clears of naxx. Depending on our groups for 25 mans, I can be sitting at a healthy 7k RAP with the hourglass up, and can easily hit 50% crit chance with master tactician procced. At first i couldn't believe what I was seeing when I was raiding, but now it's just kind of average for me.
#11 Feb 22 2009 at 10:45 PM Rating: Good
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explosive-serphent- steady- aimed- steady- explosive- steady- steady- aimed- serphent- steady explosive


Keep in mind that Aimed Shot deals a bit more damage than Steady, so you'd want to prioritize it first. (I bolded it) Also, I haven't tested it, but I'd assume that you ought to shoot a Serpent Sting first for the damage buff, and then launch an Explosive Shot.

On the other hand, if you're really interested in boosting your DPS you might want to try trap-dancing. Not only does it break up the monotony of pew pewing, it also increases your DPS by a lot. (Of course at first you'll probably lose DPS until you get used to it, and learn which fights you can dance in)
#12 Feb 22 2009 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Zeromatter wrote:
if you're really interested in boosting your DPS you might want to try trap-dancing.

Guessing this is getting LnL procs from traps going off, giving you two free Explosive Shots?

Sorry to ask a noob question; haven't done my EJ research for hunter yet. Smiley: tongue
#13 Feb 23 2009 at 3:16 AM Rating: Good
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Jup, dropping a frost trap to be specific.
As while frost trap doesn't deal damage, LnL procs from frost trap aren't affected by the hidden 30 second cooldown on Lock and Load.
#14 Feb 23 2009 at 5:25 AM Rating: Decent
potsoriginal wrote:
Aethien I can't seem to find you on the armory, do you think you could link your hunter?


He's in EU man.
#15 Feb 23 2009 at 5:51 AM Rating: Good
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And it's Æthien.
All Æthien's are me, except for that one Death Knight who stole my name Smiley: mad
I posted on the O-boards but he doesn't reply....
#16 Feb 23 2009 at 6:01 AM Rating: Good
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potsoriginal wrote:
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What's people's obsession with seeing my armory?
I'm not some sort of hunter god or something and my gear is far from special.

Ah well, Here's me.
That said, I don't have my EoValor cloak equipped yet as there was no enchanter in sight or a cloak enchant on the AH.


Lol no wonder I can't find you, it's taking forever and a day to load :P

hmmmmm... I must be doing something wrong because my gear seems to be around yours or just under it. What priority do you keep your shots in?

I tend to start with explosive-serphent- steady- aimed- steady- explosive- steady- steady- aimed- serphent- steady explosive
and it goes on and on :P


Well, right off the bat, you should have a maximum of three shots between any given two explosives. you're showing four shots. That would be an absolutely massive dps loss.
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#17 Feb 23 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, right off the bat, you should have a maximum of three shots between any given two explosives. you're showing four shots. That would be an absolutely massive dps loss.


So I'm looking for something like

Serpent shot -> Explosive Shot -> Aimed Shot -> Steady Shot -> Steady Shot -> Explosive Shot -> Aimed -> Steady Shot

and repeat? My only problem is will the cool down be done with only 3 shots in between? It's like a 6 second cooldown if my memory is correct. Whats the hunter global cooldown? 1 second? It seems so long.

I haven't really tried trap dancing because of the 30 second internal cooldown, my LnL seems to proc every 35-40 seconds. Which it would take me 4-8 seconds to run and place the trap and 2-8 seconds to get back 30 yards away for sniper training. (depending if disengage is on or off CD.) So about 10 seconds for the process which is about 5 auto shots down the drain and at least 3 steady shots.

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Jup, dropping a frost trap to be specific.
As while frost trap doesn't deal damage, LnL procs from frost trap aren't affected by the hidden 30 second cooldown on Lock and Load.

What do you mean?
#18 Feb 23 2009 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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potsoriginal wrote:
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Well, right off the bat, you should have a maximum of three shots between any given two explosives. you're showing four shots. That would be an absolutely massive dps loss.


So I'm looking for something like

Serpent shot -> Explosive Shot -> Aimed Shot -> Steady Shot -> Steady Shot -> Explosive Shot -> Aimed -> Steady Shot

and repeat? My only problem is will the cool down be done with only 3 shots in between? It's like a 6 second cooldown if my memory is correct. Whats the hunter global cooldown? 1 second? It seems so long.
Seriously?

The hunter GCD is 1.5 seconds. like it always has been. This means that if you are softcapped for haste, you can fit exactly three steadies in between two explosive shots. If you are not haste capped the three steadies will actually take longer then the gap, which is why instant shots are so nice.

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Jup, dropping a frost trap to be specific.
As while frost trap doesn't deal damage, LnL procs from frost trap aren't affected by the hidden 30 second cooldown on Lock and Load.
What do you mean?
He means that LnL procs from frost traps don't trigger the 30 second internal CD.... They also aren't affected by it, so you can get a frost trap proc right after or right before a sting proc....

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 11:48am by Xsarus
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#19 Feb 23 2009 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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He means that LnL procs from frost traps don't trigger the 30 second internal CD.... They also aren't affected by it, so you can get a frost trap proc right after or right before a sting proc....

That is so amazingly sweet!

Great information to know. Also someone finally like the famous spreadsheet, I'm playing around with it. I expect a 300 to 500 dps increase by naxx tonight.

I've upgraded my shot rotation, going to incooperate a new tactic into dps (trap dancing with FT), going to change my glyphs (at least one of them).

I don't know if I want to send the other hunters in my guild here :P

In naxx I've been top dps by maybe 0.06% or so, wait until tonight what I'm up by nearly 5%!

Thank-you guys, anymore information would be appreciated
#20 Feb 23 2009 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Don't trap dance until you are really comfortable with your rotation. That's my opinion anyway. I hit 5100 dps without any trouble on patchwerk without any trapdancing, and I'm not t7.5 geared.
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#21 Feb 24 2009 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
I've lost my mind. Got two epics from naxxramas...
#22 Feb 25 2009 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Feral druid?


Outside of that, I've been at nearly 7k AP and 100+% crit vs Loatheb and then I'm just in 10 man gear.


I recently Pm'd Aethien to ask for some advice, and of course I got what I was looking for.

FYI Aethien, I have changed those gems as suggested and also my talent tree has been reworked. Took a run at a test dummy with an Ammo pouch then we went and hit Naxx 25 and the kill on Patchy. (He is so my favorite Boss. Big, ugly and lets me rip away with the nuke-tastic from the word go). It was a fail\suck as we did not have enough healers for the job and one new healer along learning the ropes as well, (not bad though as he specced to healer that night on guild request from retri Pala).

What I got from it though was amazing. Topped out the other two hunters and 2nd and 3rd on the list only a short way behind those above.

Thanks for the advice Aethien. Took a trip to Loetheb before that. 109% crit <INSERT BIG GRIN> whoosshhhhh! went the damage meter!! I swear the end of my nerubian conquerer was melting lol.

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 8:31am by Thoromin
#23 Feb 25 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
I love epeen contests! (no, seriously I do)

In raid I buff to about 7150'ish RAP, capped haste and 47.6% crit BEFORE master tactition or anything else procs. When my trinkets and skills proc togather I hit 9200 RAP and 65% crit. This is normal fights, not loetheb or anything silly.
#24 Feb 25 2009 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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I love epeen contests! (no, seriously I do)

In raid I buff to about 7150'ish RAP, capped haste and 47.6% crit BEFORE master tactition or anything else procs. When my trinkets and skills proc togather I hit 9200 RAP and 65% crit. This is normal fights, not loetheb or anything silly.


Oh yeah? Well I have a unicorn...
#25 Feb 25 2009 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
OMG...I'd trade all my fortune and fame for just one touch...
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OMG...I'd trade all my fortune and fame for just one touch...


All of your fortune and fame is worth but the touch of...something with more worth than a unicorn :)
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