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#1 Feb 17 2009 at 4:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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While the servers were shutdown last night I thought I'd do something a little more constructive then my usual WoW lore reading and draw up a Pre Raid/Heroic Ret Pally Gear list. It seems people have been asking for this for a while now, so hopefully this can suffice until the Ret Guide is upgraded or this is added to it.

I've tried to keep with a similar format of the Ret guide giving a quest reward, craftable, dungeon drop or reputation/badge/goal item. I've also tried to stick to strength, crit and hit, the 'bread and butter' stats of the Ret Paladin. I have added in some dungeon drops from heroics and would advise that prospective Ret Raiders aim for some of these pieces before heading into 10 man Naxx. Try and avoid having too many pieces of Savage Saronite gear too. There is a fair bit of wasted itemization on resilience with it's gear.

Bear in mind I haven't bolded a supreme Libram either. It will depend on your spell rotation and seal of choice. I'd advise either having the green one alone or both of the other two (one for SoM/B and one for SoC for those fights when SoM/B is not advised eg Loatheb/Gluth in Naxx).

A word of warning on dungeon drops though: Like anything in WoW the RNG, bad tanks, bad healers, idiotic dpsers and buggy bosses can make some of these drops very hard to obtain. I have only added in info for drops on the links that Allakhazam doesnt have info on. For all others just click on the link.

Happy hunting and good luck!



Head:

Quest Reward: Faceguard of Punishment

Craftable: Spike Titansteel Helm

Instance Drop: Chitin Shell Greathelm

Item Enhancement: Arcanum of Torment + 50AP/20crit strike rating.



Neck:

Quest Reward: The Severed Noose of Westwind

Craftable: Titanium Impact Choker

Badge Item: Pendant of the Outcast Hero

Instance Drop: Necklace of Arcane Spheres


Shoulders:

Quest Reward: Brazen Offender's Shoulderplates

Craftable: Savage Saronite Pauldrons

Rep Item:: Spaulders of the Giant Lords

Instance Drop: Pauldrons of the Lightning Revenant from heroic HoL.

Item Enhancement: Lesser(30AP/10csr)/Greater(40AP/15csr) Inscription of the Axe from SoH rep.



Cloak:

Quest Reward: Illskar's Greatcloak

Craftable: Ice Striker's Cloak

Instance Drop: Cloak of the Gushing Wound

Auction House Special: Cloak of Bloodied Waters is a bind on equip drop from heroic Gundrak which has probably the best itemization you can get on a pre raid cloak.

Item Enhancement: Enchant Cloak: Major/Superior Agility.



Chest:

Quest: Battleplate of Unheard Ovation

Craftable: Savage Saronite Hauberk

Badges: Heroes' Redemption Chestpiece for 80 Emblems of Heroism.

Instance Drop:: Breastplate of Undeath

Item Enhancement: Enchant Chest: Powerful/Super Stats.



Wrists:

Quest: Rings of Nergeld

Craftable: Vengeance Bindings

Instance Drop: Golden Limb Bands

Item Enhancement: Enchant Bracer: Greater Assault/Striking.



Hands:

Quest: Astrid's Riding Gloves

Craftable: Savage Saronite Gauntlets

Badges: Heroes' Redemption Gauntlets for 60 Emblems of Heroism.

Instance Drop: Fists of Loken

Item Enhancement: Enchant Gloves: Crusher/Major Strength.



Waist:

Quest: Thorim's Grasp

Craftable: Savage Saronite Waistguard

Badges: Verdungo's Barbarian Cord

Instance Drop: Flame-Bathed Steel Girdle

Item Enhancement: You can have a socket made by a blacksmith and add in a strength gem.



Legs:

Quest: Coldblooded Legplates

Craftable: Spiked Cobalt Legplates

Rep Item: Legplates of Bloody Reprisal from Wyrmrest Accord Rep.

Instance Drop: Staggering Legplates

Item Enhancement: Icescale/Nerubian Leg armor.



Feet:

Quest: Icewalker's Spikes

Craftable: Spiked Titansteel Treads

Rep Item: Death-Inured Sabatons from Knights of Ebon Hold.

Instance Drop: The Obliterator Greaves

Item Enhancement: Enchant Boots: Icewalker (if your not hitcapped) or Greater Assault.



Rings:

Quest: Signet of Bridenbrad and Jagged Ice Band

Craftable: Titanium Impact Band

Instance Drop: Hemorrhaging Circle from Gal'darah in heroic Gundrak, Band of Frosted Thorns from heroic Nexus or Mobius Band from Chrono Lord Epoch in heroic CoS.



Trinkets:

Quest: Crusader's Locket

Craftable: Darkmoon Card: Greatness

Badges: Mirror of Truth

Instance Drop: Sphere of Red Dragon's Blood and Incisor Fragment.


Librams:

Quest: Libram of Furious Blows

Rep/PvP Item: Venture Co. Libram of Retribution

Badges: Libram of Reciprocation


Weapons:

Quest: De-Raged Waraxe from the Zul'Drak Amph quest.

Craftable: Titansteel Destroyer

Rep Items: Argent Skeleton Crusher or Runeblade of Demonstrable Power from Argent Dawn and KotEB reps respectively.

Instance Drop: Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver and Sword of Justice

Item Enhancement: Enchant 2H Weapon: Berserker, Massacre, Greater Savagery or buying a Titanium Weapon Chain(if you need the hit)




Edited, Feb 24th 2009 4:34pm by arthoriuss

Edited, Feb 24th 2009 4:48pm by arthoriuss
#2 Feb 18 2009 at 1:01 AM Rating: Good
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A commendable effort. There a numerous lists like this around the interweb and in individual applications like RAWL. Hopefully it's useful to someone.
#3 Feb 18 2009 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
The cloak of bloodied waters is an instance drop (I think random mob), not craftable. I believe it drops in Drak Tharon Keep. Otherwise good post.
Some more information. The incisor fragment drops off King Dred in Drak Tharon(Heroic). The sphere of Red Dragon's Blood drops in Nexus(Heroic) I believe off of Keristrasza. The Hemorrhaging Circle drops off of Gal'Darah in Zul'Drek.
#4 Feb 19 2009 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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KaboomIRRet wrote:
The cloak of bloodied waters is an instance drop (I think random mob), not craftable. I believe it drops in Drak Tharon Keep. Otherwise good post.
Some more information. The incisor fragment drops off King Dred in Drak Tharon(Heroic). The sphere of Red Dragon's Blood drops in Nexus(Heroic) I believe off of Keristrasza. The Hemorrhaging Circle drops off of Gal'Darah in Zul'Drek.


I have fixed that up now so that the ones that don't offer info have info on them. All others just need to be clicked on to find their drop location. Let me know if you guys are keen for me to add in a list of levelling weapons from say level 15-80.
#5 Feb 20 2009 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
The cloak of bloodied waters is arguably the best cloak for ret palys until the Drape of the Deadly Foe off of Heroic Naxx (KT). Buy it without hesitation.
#6 Feb 20 2009 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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KaboomIRRet wrote:
The cloak of bloodied waters is arguably the best cloak for ret palys until the Drape of the Deadly Foe off of Heroic Naxx (KT). Buy it without hesitation.

Surprisingly affordable, too, at least on my server. I guess a lot of people are colorblind - I've rarely seen L80 purples for under 1000g, no matter how crap they are, and even the blues that are known to be BIS for 5-man or 10-man content hardly ever crack 1000g.
#7 Feb 20 2009 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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I paid 30g for my Cloak of Bloodied Waters. Auction House steal IMO. Not sure why the links have bugged though.

Edited, Feb 20th 2009 5:49pm by arthoriuss
#8 Feb 21 2009 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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What about: Legplates of the Oculus Guardian

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=37263;source=live
#9 Feb 21 2009 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I always wondered why they force you to use PvP Craftables if you're a DPS melee who wears plate.

I coulda sworn there was a +hit rating/+crit rating saronite, but then I looked it up on Alla, and there's actually not, very oddly.

Yet another glaring hole in craftables that Blizz has yet to fill.

If I were a retadin, I'd even go as far as to buy friggin melee leather that has +Hit, instead of PvP plate with +resil. I mean, as a retadin, not like you should be getting hit often anyways, right? Unless, of course, there's a Ret Talent that increases AP by Armor or something... its been awhile since I looked at the ret tree, though.
#10 Feb 22 2009 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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sorry, a little slow to this. great list. i'm still working on my list, so in the meantime i'd like to copy/paste this to the ret guide if that's ok w/ you. i've been working on a list that should be useful to more people. the lists i've put in the past are pretty much just for those looking to get into the enty raids. the one i'm working on for wotlk i'm trying to put pre-heroic, heroic, 10 man os/naxx and maly and then 25 man os/naxx and then 25 maly... the idea is to have a more graduated list w/ the best peice you can get from each lvl a person might find them selves at. i won't be including every peice of gear obviously (too many for one list), but it should be a pretty decent list for anyone looking to gear up through current content.
#11 Feb 22 2009 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
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Sure mate. I'd be happy for you to use the info here in the Ret Guide. On the Savage saronite gear with resilience issue there is the cobalt set that offers hit rating (its a green set not blue). I stayed away from it for the simple reason that most pieces had haste and if you intend to pug most people will cry out undergeared if they see mid level 70 greens equipped.

Here is a link to the Spiked Cobalt set if anyone is interested.

I stayed away from the Occulus legs for the simple reason that unless its a guild run you will struggle in there. I think many people just can't grasp the dragon/vehicle part of the instance. Heroic UK on the other hand can be done easily in 25-40mins with your average entry heroic level group. My PB with a PuG on h UK was 23mins due to an incoming server shutdown.




Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 12:36am by arthoriuss
#12 Feb 23 2009 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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Berserker is better than Massacre for weapon enchants, btw. I don't know the math off the top of my head, but you can probably find it online. It works out to more AP over time than Massacre. Massacre might be best for PvP so you don't have to worry about its spikiness, but i dunno.

Also, you might want to flag pre-raid best in slot. IMO, going top to bottom on your list, these are: Spiked Titansteel Helm, Pedant of the Outcast Hero/Gold Amulet of Kings (the latter is ymiron heroic, not on your list), Spaulders of the Giant Lords, Cloak of Bloodied Waters, Heroes Chestpiece, Golden Limb Bands (though vengance is close if you need hit), Heroes Gauntlets, Flame Bathed Steel Girdle, Staggering Legplates, Death Inured Sabatons, Hemorrhaging Circle and Band of Frosted Thorns (Dalaran +str ring too, if you can afford it), Mirror of truth and darkmoon card (add the Metor Whetstone fron h up too), Venture co Libram, Titansteel Destroyer
#13 Feb 23 2009 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
On the berserking topic. Yeah I read that on another forum but from what I remember it procs 35% of the time so 35% of 400 is 140 ap vs. 110 static ap which makes berserking better. Plus blizz reduced the armor nerf of the proc too.
#14 Feb 23 2009 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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Being an enchanter yeah I would probably go for Berserking since I can get the matts for relatively cheap. If I wasnt an enchanter though I wouldnt worry about it until Death's Bite or some other Naxx upgrade. IMO depends on how much money you want/have to spend after picking up the Titansteel helm and destroyer. I dont think I could bring myself to put it on the De-Raged War Axe though lol.

Edited, Feb 24th 2009 3:14am by arthoriuss
#15 Feb 24 2009 at 5:41 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I didn't even put massacre on my destroyer. I'm holding out for one of the five weapons i consider better :)
#16 Feb 24 2009 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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Same here. I think I was running with greater savagery on my Titansteel Destroyer. I've Bolded the ones that are best in slot for you guys.

Some like the Destroyer vs Skull Clad depend on hit as to which comes out on top so bear that in mind when deciding on what to go after. Don't go over the hit cap (8%). Its uberwasteful on stats.

Edited, Feb 24th 2009 4:40pm by arthoriuss
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