Demon for grouping?Follow

Hot on the heals of the dps problem it suddenly occurred to me that about half of my dps comes from my Felguard. Now I've soloed to 80 but I'd always understood that groups want an imp for the STA boost so that puts a massive dent in my damage output. I don't trust my imp on anything except passive and he hasn't seen daylight for about 50 levels.

Is it safe to use the Felguard with taunt turned off?

What is a sensible demon for 80 instances?

How should I use it?

Demonology seems to be designed to that is the case. There's supposed to be a synergy between the warlock and demon; you'll notice you might not do so well if you dont have one.
Imp and felhunter are usually what I prefer for fights where their survival might be a problem. Since they gave us Demonic Synergy, I dont seem to have that problem any more, and felguard should be sufficient most of the time.


There does not yet seem to be a way to abruptly increase their threat to generate sufficient secondary aggro, so it's a waste of mana to have your taunts going. Your tank my not appreciate it, either lol.
I can solo an elites my own level when I need to. If your group decides that's a good strategy for managing crowds, then of course taunts are needed. I like to stand close to whomever is healing, so I can be ready to pull of them should they generate enough threat.


I always have Intercept and/or Cleave enabled. It's rare that my minions accidentally pull something. I just disable one of those when there's an adjacent group, which works out fine.
The Demonic Sacrifice seems like a waste when one has Master Demonologist and Demonic Knowledge. The bonuses are far less than what's received by the deeper talents, so I think DS is a waste of points should one spec deeper than that.
Of course, I spec 21/42/8, so my play style depends more on those deeper talents, unlike a Demonology/Destruction build.


Felguard is all purpose, if you have it. Otherwise, you'll be changing minions to suit each situation accordingly.
When I dont have a felguard, it was often imp or felhunter. During pre-BC days, I would occasionally be asked to use a succubus for crowd control.
Hopefully, Blizzard will make our minions more situational than they already are, because I get bored of having the same minion for most situations.

I always run with felguard, unless the tank or more experienced user for the instance (I don't go on instances often, so my instance experience is low) requests I use a different pet. If they do request a different one, it's usually the succubus.

Others usually also request that I have intercept and cleave turned off, with my felguard.

Felguard all the way. The Stam boost in now a myth with the Imp since the patch. I turn off the taunt and basically use him as an ADD-dog, protecting the healer and killing Mob trash. I did have a Priest, of all people, request I use my Imp for the extra HP. Well, after saving him with my Big Ugly and saving us from a group wipe, he's changed his tone.
There was a time when a demonlock could'nt get a group to save his life, now however, I get invitations all the time, even for the larger raid groups, and I think with the up and coming patch things will get even better.

Yea, currently i am getting geared for raiding. Im going with a felguard/emberstorm build for running heroics and i am really happy with it right now. The rotation is very easy compared to affliction, and the DPS is decent also. I tried going affliction for a while but wasn't really feeling it since i leveled mostly from 1-80 as demonology.