Tree related questionsFollow

Hi all,


So after several months of work my druid is finally starting to near the end, up to lvl 72 as of last night. At this point I'm really starting to get into a debate about where to place remaining talent points, etc. Also I'm healing instances more frequently now and have a few 5-man healing questions as well. I've looked around at various boards and am still left with a few questions. So here we go...

My current build is this:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Nagrand&n=Sundrizzle with Healing touch and Swiftmend glyphed.

I envision changing to this:


but as you notice I have 9 more talent points to place, and am not sure where to place them. My gut feeling is to fill out Nature's Grace, Living Seed, and Replenish, but I though I'd see what the community has to say.

Also, which 3rd glyph do you recommend? I'm debating between Regrowth and Rejuvenation personally... but would love an outside opinion. I've read some of the theory on this but was wondering which one do people find more useful in gameplay? Or maybe take both and skip on the Innverate Glyph?

In my build I also have 2 points in Improved Tranquility, which I haven't seen in a lot of builds I've looked at. However I've found it useful as it seems for me Wild Growth can't keep up with the AoE splash damage, etc. that the 5-mans I heal tend to take.

Have other people seen this as well? Or do I just get grouped with too many squishies who get too close to fray? Or perhaps I have too low of spellpower for my level?

Other healing related questions....

My general rotation is RJ, LB x 3, then RG or WG depending on how much damage the DPS is taking...

Do you find it better to keep LB running with a 3 stack and cast another LB just before the timer runs out, or let it expire, and re-stack it?

Is there a good add-on for tracking HoT timers? I can get behind when my DPS is taking damage, and would love a reminder to get back to stacking HoTs on the tank, or do I simply need more practice perhaps?

Since the druid seems to be more about pre-empting damage, rather then reacting to it (wife has a holy pally as my basis for comparison, no HoTs... poor her...) I notice I tend to over-heal. I'm thinking this is often because the fight ends when I still have HoTs stacked, or the damage switches off the tank to a DPS...

Do people find that they over-heal more with their druids then other healers? Or is this something I'll need to get better at with experience?

Does anyone know the % breakdown for how Wild Growth heals? "Slows down" is a bit vague...

Okay I'm sure I have more questions, but that's probably enough for one post. Any additional advice would be appreciated, as I'm sure there are things I haven't thought of yet. Thanks in advance for the help!

Edited because of broken link

Edited, Feb 11th 2009 4:31pm by someproteinguy

I use Classtimer It gives you a bar for each player, target and focus. Each bar can be completely customized. Works nicely with X-perl UnitFrames and Clique. With those you can put your unitframes wherever you want, put your HoT timers around them and then click the unitframes to heal!

As far as your build, looks pretty standard. Naturalist is ok while leveling, but unless, for some reason, you use Healing Touch a lot, you don't need it at 80 and can use the points to fill out Natural and Master Shapeshifter for the 4% healing gain.

Your Level 80 build didn't work for me. Make sure you hit the "Link to this build" button before you copy to paste the link over. Also if you hit the URL button in your reply, you can paste the button into the box that pops up and then give the link itself a smaller name. :P

Standard healing should still involve LB, Rejuv and Regrowth. 3 stack of blooms is almost always better during the fight to continue to refresh before it pops. If there is a lull in the action or the fight is almost over, you can let it pop and then re-apply as needed of course.

I (and the two strictly resto druids in my guild) tend to start the aforementioned, LB, Rejuv, LB, (regrowth if needed here for extra hot/topping off), LB. From there you can use the rest of your abilities situationally, refreshing LB and Rejuv as needed.

For Overhealing.... I hate healing meters. Their only use is to look at how efficiently your heals are being used. For your own use. Because honestly, having highest HPS in a raid doesn't mean ****. There are two states to a raids heals.. Good or bad... Dead or Alive.

Obviously there are ways to maximize your heals that will make it less stressful for you, but stress is measured differently for each of us, so heal how you like to heal as long as you can:

1. keep everyone alive
2. Not go OOM
3. Not blow a blood vessel in your forehead from smashing it on the keyboard trying to keep everyone alive.

Good day :P

Sounds like you're on the right path, Good Luck!

EDIT: I like using Wowhead's talent calculator out of all of them. Just seems to translate better and is easier to link to.

Edited, Feb 11th 2009 5:13pm by Galenmoon

Yay on Mendra's first post :P

But yeah, all that too :p

I use Grid & Clique and it works really well. There is a thread on Elitist Jerks Resto UI Discussion which is very useful to help set up Grid as well as other suggestions. Clique (or another addon with similar functionality) is almost essential for effective healing.

Quick question for you experienced tree healers out there (I will be one of you someday). You mention three glyphs: rejuv, lifebloom, and rebirth, but what of the other glyph slots?

What are the recommended minor glyphs? Major glyphs? Just curious.

Our guild will some day be doing 5-man, 5-man (heroic), and 10-man runs, and I plan on being the primary healer. I doubt we will ever go after 25-man content, so I'm not looking for a full blown raid spec recommendation. Thanks!

Edited, Feb 13th 2009 11:29am by Dosgamer

Heh, I'm currently feral specced at level 57, but I'm the main healer for our 5-man instance run group. We're hitting all of the old world instances before moving on to Outland.

At present, I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to my glyphs. I have the maul glyph for soloing and I honestly can't remember what other glyphs I have at the moment. Can you tell it's not a priority? =) I'm just curious what I should be getting for later on when I hit go full resto for the Northrend instances. Thanks for the input!