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ok I'm not new to this but I do need some help, I definitely need to get a copy of excell to use the spreadsheet for sure but I though I had this all under wraps

First off most 25mans I'm almost always top five dps and rarely and outed by a rogue, the only one I wouldn't attribute to slight variations on gear was a HAT rogue actually after the bug was fixed was pulling a solid 4k most of the time and he actually was rocking a few blues, anyone having some other HAT success even after the patch? He was the first one I've ran into

Anywhos, onto me http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Veversia decent gear, have my rotations down now the thing that pissed me off, I know everyone will just say spreadsheet spreadsheet, but I figured shadow panther was a decent resource, ranks lpcs as pretty much the best daggers besides 25man saph/kel and of course webbed death... So I already had one for my oh and grabbed another, both rocking mongoose figured It would pick up my dps, turns out its a good 200-250 dps (unbuffed on the dummy) lower then my slow barely enchanted epic trash daggers I was using for fok? Anyone have any idea why or how? I do have one problem I need help with my rotations, I start off garote, mut, 3-4cp then snd, mut, mut 5point rup, mut mut 5 point envenom,hfb right after I can constantly pull off 5p rup with 5p envenom and hfb right after since both my snd and hfb is 30 sec, I do get abit of extra energy but I don't know what to do with it, It always seems like i'm wasting alittle bit, should I just throw in a shiv and waste cp? if not I will just be rup/envenoming before I need to

any help from the wise ones?

All in all Jepeto is right with what he told you. I do have one thing that seems wrong.



IIRC it should be the other way around shouldn't it? Deadly on OH and Instant on MH?

Anyways, You do need to get to the expertise cap. It is one of the most important stats for mutilate rogues. As for your hit rating it is a little bit low. There has been a lot of theorycrafting regarding hit, so the actual number is still a mystery. It is good, however, to make the poison cap imo.

Lastly, I think you might want to try adding a vanish, when you have the energy and time to, so that you can get more out of your overkill talent. If you want to see a good instructional on how to add it into your rotation check out this video/ of Akrios demonstrating it.

Good Luck with your raiding.

Since this was discussed earlier in the forums(still at the bottom of the main page). I will just quote Odnet.

No it only applies to Mutilate. I personally use WP and DP when I raid because I am combat specced.