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#27 Feb 07 2009 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I never said i wasn't an elitiest. I always say I am an elitiest. I presume you came to this conclusion when i said "before anyone jumps to the conclusion i'm to elitiest..." that means that the general presumption with someone who is an elitiest is that they're unwilling to admit to being wrong about stuff, which i said isn't true, i'm happy to admit i'm wrong when it's true.

the reason why I won't simply give the answer has been answered by other people:

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that's not what upset Jenova, what upset Jenova is what he said upset him. Before posting, at least look a little for the answer, especially when it's in the damn tooltip.


the reason that i said being:

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you came in making a new topic about a spell you just got, tried and failed at.. now instead of doing the logical thing and going back, reading what it does and figuring it all out yourself.. you've come on here and wasted all our time


I agree I could (and probably have) scared off people by doing what I do, but the way I see it is if they got scared and ran, they didn't belong here/as a lock/whatever the field is... in the first place, but if they challenge me with actual valid arguements, or decide "i want to prove that git Jenovaomega wrong" and go off to look into the stuff, do the same type of work I do in figuring stuff out about the class and come up with good ideas etc.. then I see it as that they do belong here, and in return they'll get my utmost respect.

I agree that alot of my opening posts can be aggressive, but I've sworn to myself to not lie in any shape or form, which means I can't word things in a politically correct manor.. i have to be blunt and forward.. now usually i will provide the answer, but this topic is one of the exceptions when i won't because it's simply someone obviously being to lazy to bother figuring the simplest thing out, so they waste our time instead.. one of the other times I'll stop answering and become 'upset' as Lathias puts it is if I've already answered a question to someone and know that they heard (in forums, read) it... in which case i'll simply refuse to repeat myself, or at least not until i've unleashed some of the anger.

anyways, to finish, it amuses me that Rusttle has removed almost all his posts :)


#28 Feb 07 2009 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
Ah. My bad, I suppose I've misread the elitist bit.

rusttle may have deleted his posts, due to the attacks you made on each other.

I don't think he's wasted anyone's time really. We're having a debate on how and where demonic circle would be useful. Not all of us have the same expertise with the warlock, as others have. Giving examples of places, like shoarmakip did, is a great way to do so.

Back on topic...

Reading over what shoarmakip posted, for pve uses, I guess it's not a bad talent. However, I still feel it's use is very limited to specific situations. Those uses, for example. They're all referring to instances. Personally, when I enter an instance for the first time, I don't look any info up about that's inside or what the bosses can do. For me, that's part of the fun of the game.

I actually did Oculus today (one instance mentioned in shoarmakip's post of uses for demonic circle)... or yesterday rather (midnight now), nobody in my group had gone before. Sure we all died vs each boss once or twice, but never did I think of using demonic circle. Once we knew what the bosses did, the fights were simple and demonic circle wasn't needed in that instance.

I'm still seeing very little use for it. Yes, I know all those instances are good examples, but I rarely do instances and those examples have specific situations for it (specific bosses). Where would demonic circle be good to use, when not in an instance or pvp?
#29REDACTED, Posted: Feb 07 2009 at 9:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nah, I'm guessing it got subdefaulted - no biggy - its gotten boring slapping this kid around - he's too easy and since its been noted that he's a known troll, then obviously he's dumb enough to enjoy the wuss slapping just so long as he gets attention so I'll leave him to stew and go back to enjoying the game. Smiley: wink
#30 Feb 08 2009 at 3:56 AM Rating: Good
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the best thing to do is to put down the portal as you engage any boss, then run to the other side of them, even if it doesn't have any use that fight vs any specific boss ability, it can still be a life saver if you pull hate and can't/don't want to soulshatter
#31 Feb 08 2009 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
Soulshatter is another one I've never found a need for. Maybe I'm just good at not getting agro.

I think demonic circle would be better if it was able to be placed within a radius, rather than right where the caster is.
#32 Feb 08 2009 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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rusttle wrote:
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rusttle may have deleted his posts, due to the attacks you made on each other.


Nah, I'm guessing it got subdefaulted - no biggy - its gotten boring slapping this kid around - he's too easy and since its been noted that he's a known troll, then obviously he's dumb enough to enjoy the wuss slapping just so long as he gets attention so I'll leave him to stew and go back to enjoying the game. Smiley: wink


Tbh if anything was "slapped" it was that original post containing the most annoying type of question ever. I guess the fact that Blizzard gave us Tooltips and Questlogs was useless as this thread proves that a vast majority of people don't read them. And your posts getting sub-defaulted means that they either broke the forum rules or the other users knew your arguements were incorrect or horrible thus the Rate-Downs.
#33 Feb 09 2009 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
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rusttle wrote:
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rusttle may have deleted his posts, due to the attacks you made on each other.


Nah, I'm guessing it got subdefaulted - no biggy - its gotten boring slapping this kid around - he's too easy and since its been noted that he's a known troll, then obviously he's dumb enough to enjoy the wuss slapping just so long as he gets attention so I'll leave him to stew and go back to enjoying the game. Smiley: wink


Well lets see who would I consider the forum troll and loser in this debate, one of the most important posters and theory crafters on the lock forum, probably since I started coming here, or the person who has resorted to infantile insults and claims to have won because he thinks he has made the other person angry.

Now I think I'm going to have to go with the second one as being the troll so since you've clearly won this debate Russtle I'd like to congratulate you on all your informed posting about the warlock class.
#34 Feb 09 2009 at 4:39 AM Rating: Excellent
Let's face it, if the knowledge and arguments displayed by rusttle in this thread were dynamite, they wouldn't even blow your balls off.

Someone misinterpreted a spell and suddenly "are not! - are too!" syndromes kicked in everywhere.
#35 Feb 10 2009 at 2:38 AM Rating: Good
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Soulshatter is another one I've never found a need for. Maybe I'm just good at not getting agro.


Or maybe you should start doing more DPS. Smiley: wink
#36 Feb 10 2009 at 5:03 AM Rating: Decent
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This is actually the first time I've ever seen a topic (or any posts within a topic) get sub-defaulted.. and I've been a poster on here for a long time.

on the topic of soulshatter, either your tanks are amazing our your dps/gear is way below that of your other guild members.. personally I end up using it almost every boss fight because of how much damage I put out. it is pretty much a "OH FUUUUCK" button for saving yourself.. OR for popping when you're about to over take the tank on a boss fight. anyways, work finished so off home. might post more later....
#37 Feb 10 2009 at 6:44 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
HandsOfDeath wrote:
Soulshatter is another one I've never found a need for. Maybe I'm just good at not getting agro.


Or maybe you should start doing more DPS. Smiley: wink


I agree with this...If you're not on the verge of pulling aggro, then you're doing something wrong. Soul shatter lets you go all-out on bosses and drop some hate every 5 minutes (that's at least once per boss).


Also, the argument was funny if you can't see all the sub-d's...
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#38 Feb 10 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Default
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I got halfway down this thread before I realised half the posts were missing. I was thinking Jenova was just arguing with himself out of boredom. The scary thing is, I think I can guess what the majority of the other guys responses were, just based on the 2 of his posts that I actually seen. He doesnt seem the smartest...
#39 Feb 10 2009 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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haha, it is fun arguing with myself, helps keep me prepared for those really tough arguements ^^ lol jk.. i'm not that crazy... ;)
#40 Feb 10 2009 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
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#41 Feb 14 2009 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
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While some posters might make you want to facepalm once in a while, I have never been a fan of the derogatory term, '******'.

Please keep it civilized.
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#42 Feb 14 2009 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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Jenovaomega wrote:
This is actually the first time I've ever seen a topic (or any posts within a topic) get sub-defaulted.. and I've been a poster on here for a long time.


You sure? You must remember oakenwrath he probably had the sub-d achievement.

#43 Feb 14 2009 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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none that i remember getting sub-defaulted also I've already explained my reasons behind the use of the word '******'

Edited, Feb 14th 2009 1:33pm by Jenovaomega
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