Upcoming Priest ChangesFollow

Other than the changes to Penance (why would I want to CHANNEL on myself) and Shadow Priests (it simply isnt enough, they have far more issues in PvP than snare removal) I have to say that it looks rather interesting.

Power Word: Barrier sounds interesting, especially if that shield/barrier should happen to be just about as strong as a CoH. If targeting in raids would work similar to CoH, Disc Priest would finally be as strong in raids as Holy Priests. Especially in combination with a Holy Priest or Druid it would be freaking awesome to shield people while CoH or Wild Growth are on CD.

There was this post a couple days ago:



Makes me wonder if Serendipity will have the reduced cast time added to it's current overhealing mana return, or if it will be completely changed. I've always been wondering why there was a talent that would almost encourage overhealing (why be careful, I'll be getting mana back?). Then again, I've never messed much with the holy tree, so I don't know about the significance of such a change. Certainly sounds increasing the required skill level a bit. Using mana as a way to reduce mindless spamming sounds probable.



Not like we all didn't know that. Better yet:



This should end this discussion once and for all.

I agree, but I think that's not necissarily a priest problem. It's rather the huge amount of burst some classes possess that screws over shadow priests right now, as their DPS spread out over time seems pretty nice.



Brilliant! I didn't even think of this yet! As a disc priest in a guild with 1 shaman, 1 other disc priest and 3 holy paladins I wouldn't mind gaining some more raid healing ability without having to respec.



My bet is on the second, judging from the wording. The notes tend to state "in addition to" if it's a buff rather than a change.


Really happy with the outlook overal, especially the Holy PvP utility. I might never spec into it (aside from testing it) but just the thought of having two trees equally viable for PvE ánd PvP makes me happy.

*Sighs*

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The problem with holy in PvP isn't (or shouldn't be) specifically OOMness; the thing is that holy uses heals like Greater Heal to heal mana efficient, and you can't get those off in PvP. The result of that is that you have to start using an inefficient Flash Heal and PW:S, which is what leads to OOMness. If they can tackle the problem by the root (By either making the PvP heals give more bang for their bucks or somehow tweaking the PvE heals), I don't think there's a need to 'completely' rework the dynamics of the tree.

No kidding on that one. Makes CoH with no CD look like a joke, if you can get total immunity for X amount of damage + instant heal.

Really happy about the PoH on any group, now I don't have to explain why I want to be in a group with the tanks.

"Hey put me in the group with the tanks"
"Why your raid heals"
"Yeah I know, but when things get crazy and I need a big AoE heal, I can cast PoH and heal both tanks and have a nice little HoT tick on them as well"
"Wut?"
"Prayer of healing, it's a huge AoE heal, glyph of PoH adds a HoT to it, it's a huge heal, but it only works on my group"
"Wut?"
"Did you eat lead as a kid?"
"Wut?"

Ok I exaggerate, but still an awesome change.

It's not that easy. There is no dispel protection other than what little you get from Silent Resolve, and 10% of your Mind Blast and Mind Flay damage are dependent on SW:P being on the target. It's usually cleansed right away, though, without any problems. If you figure in that you are to build up a full stack of Shadow Weaving to reach your full potential, this stack lasts no time at all, having another 10% of your damage taken away is quite drastic. Misery is yet another essential damage builder for spriests.

Think about your very own dispel. Spriests depend on SW:P and Misery for ongoing damage. It's an instant cast for a priest to cleanse those two. VT and DP will be gone a global CD later. It's essential for spriest damage, and takes the spriest longer to cast than another priest to remove. I think that's wrong. Very wrong.

Ideally they'd add something similar to Unstable Affliction to the tree to discourage dispelling or at least have people think twice about it. I'd settle for additional chance to resist dispels though.



The problem I have with using it for self-healing is that the channeling requires the bubble to be up to avoid interruption. You're also putting it on an 8 second CD, during which time you won't be able to use it on those you're supposed to be healing - and actually have health pools that properly "absorb" such a nuke. I think Desperate Prayer does a better job at emergency self-healing.

Then again, simply having a choice on how to use your Penance sure isn't a bad thing.



I guess this unfortunately means that there won't be any more Imp DS either, reducing spellpower for those who had it picked it up.



Pretty much. This whole thing depends completely on the actual implementation. It could go from being totally awsome and being the so far missing link in the disc tree to being yet another LOLwell. Random procs? Utterly mana-ineficcient? Long cooldown or debuff? Half a dozen dependencies or having to accept trade-offs elsewhere?

Trying not to get my hopes up too much. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised when the whole thing actually goes live rather than having to swallow a disappointment.

Discipline sure seems to be getting some love, as can be seen in a change to warriors:



That's now the 2nd tank class we can bubble up anytime without 2nd thought. Awesome for PvP too.

Why would you think that? Just because they remove the talent required to get the spell doesn't mean the improved talent is going to be removed also.

Hmm so I got to thinking, and wondering about PoH after reading this comment.



I wonder if the center of the radius for PoH would be on the rogue and not the caster?

To use an example, let's say Heigan. Having melee all in the same group, the tank is pulling Heigan along but was a little slow getting them into area 2 before the eruption and the melee take a big hit from it.

Normally, I'd hit CoH, and begin flash healing the rest. Even if they were in my group, they normally are too far out of range to be hit by it. But, if the center of the radius is the person you cast the spell on, then every one of the melee in that group would be healed.

I think that would be superb.

I just realized this description is less specific than I thought at first read. It could be anything from an individual PWS for every member of you party to an AOE shield similar in appearance and function to the Death Knight’s Anti-Magic Zone. I feel like a kid looking at an oddly-shaped box under the Christmas tree…hope it’s something good!

Ahh TeaCake... I might just have to respec again... Hehe :-)

Love the changes.

Could someone post the last link when blizz does? I've read the first 2 and I'm guessing that they only have one more (10 classes... 4 left... meh).

Oh good lord.... the Disc changes make me wet in the panties!

Too bad the guild made me switch back to Shadow for raiding.

patch 3.0.9:
Awsome? :D