troubles heroic violet holdFollow

hello ,
i just tanked a part of this instance. Got a problem holding agro against multiple trashmobs there always slips one through . If the agroed one would run to me ,I wouldn't mind but even after telling them a hunderd times they still keep running to the other side complaining that I don't keep threat.Especially problems with warlocks and pyromancing mages
need some advise from resident beartanks


if you want to look me up on armory it's thornblade on the ghostlands server


thanks in advance

Honestly, tanking in H VH is about making sure everyone knows their priorities. You can't really mark them because of time, but just set out a pre-emptive kill order. I do the mage type first, because they frequently drop aggro anyway to do that channelled spell, are annoying with the knockback spell, and if a DPS does steal aggro, they're just gonna eat mostly magic damage. The rogue types, stalker I think, should go down next simply becase of their annoying teleport ability. Third type, can't remember name, hunters maybe? And lastly, the captains. Everytime I've seen tank trouble or had it myself it's because some moron decides to solo the captain and then get's a spear or seven in the face. It's to the point where I always ask if people know the bosses and I always set up the kill order before hand. Really though, this in general should be common knowledge for most DPS for unmarkable mobs (caster/ranged/AOEers take priority over basic warrior types). Or are you having just general problems with AOEers?

When I see the pack of elites coming I'll drop Nature's Grasp on myself (which doesn't take you out of bear form), hit the maul button (which will hit as soon as the targeted mob is in range) FFF one (usually one in back), then target the closest mob. Sswipe like hell. Growl any that get by. Past that its just keeping them all in front of me and swipe/maul.

EDIT: The other thing to remember is these elites will be heading to the door. You can position yourself in line with this and as long as nobody does anything right off the bat you can usually grab them all pretty quick. If the healer is still topping you off and the dps start right in, its gonna be messy...

Edited, Jan 29th 2009 5:10pm by Dandwan

Just try to have some rage left for the next group.
1-2 swipes is all you need.
just use swipe first to bind aggro on you.
then start tanking the focus-target a bit more.

I've been getting a glitch ever since the patch where one of the packs (the one on the left side on the top, left of the collapsed rubble part and right of the stairs) will actually split up and head to the door from different angles. One group will go down the rubble and one will go down the stairs. If it's a pack of 3, it will split up two one way and one the other, and if it is a pack of 4, it will split up two and two.

Pain. In. My. *******. ***.

Yeah I worded that wrong, not really an aggro drop.


And the pack split up is not a glitch I imagine, but rather meant to happen to throw a curveball at ya. There have been a handful of minor trash tweaks from what I can tell. In heroic HoS, I don't think the mind controllers ever managed to actually mind control a party member until after the patch. At least, I never noticed it before, so maybe the success or use rate was upped.

Hey guys,

This is a bit off topic. But not entirely. I'm having some tanking issues on my server. I've been Feral-Tank spec my whole Druid life and tanked through TBC content also. But it seems that every heroics and reg instance I run no one wants to use any type of CC. It really doesn't matter to me. So long as I can hold 4-6 mobs with no issue. Hoever that's just not the case. As a druid tank wipe just doesn't generate the threat you need to hold 6 mobs when you got 3 other members doing massive AoE dmg. So I would like some tips and suggestions on what to do for multiple mobs. Spell rotation or changing mob targets frequently. It god bad one time when we ran H VH and the two mages that were with me were getting pissed because they kept gaining aggro. I explained that I was doing all the dmg possible and they should probably wait a few seconds for me to gain full aggro on all mobs before starting their AoE. However they wouldn't wait and stated as a tank I'm no good because I can't hold aggro on more then 4 mobs and they left the group. This has happened to me a few times in a few different Heroics. But it's always been a case where I suggest CC and none of the CC classes want to use it. Arguing that the groups AoE dps should be able to burn them down. But for some reason it's hard for me to hold aggro. I'm really not new at tanking and I don't think Wrath is going to right way in making all these classes think it's a damn pull and AoE dps race with no CC or no coordination. It just seems to me like the raids and heroic encounters are not for a group to utilize it's full potential but to just zerg **** and move on. I personally liked having to mark and CC and plan out pulls. Should all pulls be like this? No absolutely not. Should an instance that has only 3 bosses taske 2 hours because of careful precise planning on trash pulls. I don't think so either. But a little bit more then just mass pull and massive AoE then scream at thr tank because he couldn't hold aggro for 30 seconds on 6 mobs while the DPS goes complete Ape ****. Sorry for ranting a bit but I want to be a great tank. I think I'm a pretty good tank but I need a few pointer on what to do to help my situation. Thank you for reading and helping out.

Armory me if you want.

Voridor- Vashj

Ya I got the Maul glyph. Which I can not live without now. It makes tanking easier for sure. I usually FFF a mob then spam Swipe and Maul, and switching targets during the process. But in a few cases as stated before it just doesn't help. I'll check into the hit rating and the expertise. They may have to do with it.

I haven't tanked a lot, but I would say if the DPS doesn't want to CC or hold back on the AoE then either kick them from the group or drop out yourself. My opinion is the tank rans the instance. As a DPS'er (kitty) if I pull aggro off of the tank and die its my fault not the tanks.

In the guild I'm in, when we run instances with a tank who is starting out we alway give him a few seconds to build aggro. The few times I did tank I would alway ask them to the time to do a couple of swipes before starting up. Didn't have too many problems.

I tried tanking H VH with a pug and it was a disaster. I will never tank a pug again because of it. I told them up front that I don;t have a lot of tanking experience but the DK kept yelling in party chat and on the second time we wiped started complaining about his repair bill. I said to heck with it and dropped group. The priest healer, who is a guild mate, dropped with me. I don't need that kind of crap.