Possible buff for BM.Follow

The Horror of not being assured a spot as #1

I have to say, I really like the fact that they made SV viable. I like the idea of being able to actually chose my spec to be competitive. There will always be a top spec, but having it be situational would be really nice.

BRK posted it on his blog *just* before I was going to bed last night, and I was so excited I had to share. ;)


I do agree that this patch has given BM hunters a bit of a positive challenge in some ways (making us experiment, get out of the old SS rut, and try to maximize our rotations) and so has made other classes see us in a much kinder light, I too have received more than my share of compliments just for keeping up fair-decent DPS and knowing what I'm doing. "OMG you got nerfed! But you're still awesome!" It's kind of fun, I am hoping that even after we get fixed the other classes will maybe keep an eye on use and see "Oh, they're not ALL button-mashing retards." It would be nice to keep getting a little credit for the DPS I do. :)

Now, I understand if you think another spec is more fun, but really you should be keeping your pet alive anyway as it's still a fair bit of DPS, and if it did die then BM would have a pretty big advantage anyway. So, you're wrong.

Heart of the Phoenix (Easier for BM to get with those extra pet talent points.)

Improved Revive Pet (BM talent.)

*shivers*
BRK is so bad.... I read his blog that "proved" that BM was still competitive.
Him comparing WWS... 2 WWS reports you couldn't compare at all.
It's horrible.

Once again, a different spec comes out as top DPS and everyone wants the old to be the best again? It's a roller coaster of nerfs/buffs/opinions and endless whining.

Go SV Go!
It's much more fun to play.
Everyone loves seeing him/her self having 50+% crit, seeing mobs die in 3 seconds while soloing (yes, that's not uncommon) and the Explosive shot animation is cool! :P

It's only 50g to respec, that's like... 10 minutes fishing/herbing/mining?

All respect to you because I've enjoyed your posts for years now but unless you can come up with something other than dps for us to do in a raid barring a fight like Gluth then dps is really all we got now.

As for wishing to see all 3 specs performing within a small percentage of one another, wish all you want but it's just not hapening at the moment and it's not our fault.

This whole "Diehard BM" crap is somewhat amusing I'll say because I wonder just how "diehard" they were before BM was uber easy dps. I was a diehard BM for a while in BC before my gear reached a point that I could compete with MM and SV and that was perhaps the closest we've been to date to having three viable options. I was diehard MM back pre BC. Fact is things change and if you want to bring your A game then now is the time to check out SV. It's not elitism or even oppinion for that matter. The way we go about preaching our views may be bordering on elitism and it is our duty to curb that indeed. I wonder if some of the elitism is frustration that comes out more in boards like this than it might in a board like EJ because all the endless "I'm speccing this and willing it to work out of my own ignorance" threads are nuked in a place like that and never see the light of day.

LOL! I kinda knew I'd get interpreted like that.

(sorry ahead of time for the length of the post, skip it or read and understand thoroughly- don't skim please.)

None of my statements were incorrect as I wasn't giving specifics. I never said which Boss, I never said which instance, I never gave a level; if you could broaden your scope of thought it would help to understand what I'm saying. I actually said if you are having a tough time on a latter end-game boss then ABSOLUTELY you need to be running as the max dps because that's what your RAID needs (your "A" game so to speak). So I actually AGREED with that thinking in that situation.

What I was warning against was thinking that it was the ONLY way to play the game. That those end-game gear grinds (which is really all they end up being after the umpteenth run of nasty end boss X- again, GENERIC here as it apparently won't change come whatever next expansion or patch they have) are all that is left of the game. You fall into this kind of 'pit' when you only think of dps and that's it. Does it hurt to try something different, grind elsewhere, play around with skills you don't normally use?.. no, not really. It certainly doesn't mean you fail as a hunter, it means you're having fun with the game. As long as your group knows it and is okay with it, no harm no foul.

I'd be willing to bet that any of you successful end-gamers could run a Heroic UK in a decent BM spec and still have a bit of fun with it AND successfully complete it. It is not because BM spec sux or SV would be better, but because you bring the skills and elements necessary to make the game fun for yourself with you. Most players at the end-game stage probably have learned what makes the game fun for them by that time, as for those others they likely purchased their character and are clueless or never bothered to learn the game at all.

KDenelor, I agree with you, it will be a challenge for Blizzard to equalize the dps out the way I said but that doesn't mean I can't dream about it or offer it up as a goal to Blizz. I'm glad you've respected what I've had to say in the past, I respect what you and most others here say as well. Respect of difference is actually very beneficial to open discussion. If we showed more of it, even to those with erroenous ideas of how the mechanics work, I think we'd have better quality discussions here and have better informed hunters.

I am not RAH-RAH BM, never have been. I actually prefer MM. I'm not even level 80 so I don't really care about end-game at the moment. What I care about is not whacking people upside the head for choosing not to be a given spec because it's the tops of dps at the moment, or whining that you just respec'd to be top dps and Blizz is changing the rules again that will shift it around. Well, that is the nature of this game (it changes) and people have different tastes and preferences.

If you aren't attempting that harsh end Raid, it's okay to be 'whatever'. We should never look down our noses at someone for playing however they want to play- THAT is elitism and we all get guilty of it from time to time. Our real job here on these forums is to learn, educate, have fun and share experiences not criticize and bash. I'm suggesting we stay away from those latter traits. This is Allakhazam, not EJ which has "Elistist" right in its title so you know what you are walking into there. I think it's okay to import the knowledge here, but leave the elitism there.

If I'm out of line, please let me know (in a nice way)... ^_^