Dr00d DW!??!?!? A new idea!Follow

Ok so this is a serious concept and I can already imagine rogues QQ'ing hardcore over this if it were ever implemented but here goes.

Now that I basically see AP on every weapon that a druid can use I've been seeing all these daggers that have amazing amounts of feral ap on them and they're coming with some pretty crazy stats.

Imagine dw'ing two daggers with mongoose on both daggers, that just sounds like a beautiful thing to me.

DW for a druid will functionally be the same as using a single 2h in terms of stat gain. that includes feral AP. so aside from the being able to have two enchants we'd gain nothing by being able to DW.

I you did get DW you would have to suffer the same hit chance penalty as other DW classes. Not something i would be looking forward to.

I can only agree, especially since the patch. You can see Feral AP on everything but you can't use half the weapons... wtf.

I think he means... since 1h weapons have less DPS than 2h weapons, the DPS and FAP from 2 x 1h weapons would equal the DPS and FAP from 1 x 2h weapon...

While not completely illogical, it's not true, since typically the combined DPS of 2 x 1h weapons is higher than the DPS of 1 x 2h weapon (to compensate for miss rate and stuff I guess). So Druids would gain more FAP from DW'ing daggers in a typical situation.

Using two green quest rewards for example:
Bramblethorn Greatstaff: iLvl 138, 110.2 DPS, 772 FAP.
Shark Stabber: iLvl 138, 84.4 DPS, 412 FAP.

Meaning DW'ing with another dagger of the same iLvl would net 824 FAP, roughly 100 more than what one would get using a feral staff.

But anyway, I think a DW'ing mechanic for Druids would be way too complicated. Up the speed of the attack animation, but cause attacks to miss more often? Or like, your main-hand weapon attack animate your right paw while your off-hand attacks animate your left paw? O_o

I dunno, I like the staffs we get. Got used to the idea in BC. I like that they started adding FAP to different weapons but, I just thought they'd put FAP on weapon that, y'know, we can use in the first place.

@Selverein

You are forgetting that typically, any dual wielder will only get 50% damage output from their offhand, unless a talent changes that.
so basicly you would only get 618 FAP from dualwileding that shark-stabber, if Blizzard wouldnt be going the stupid way :P

uh, no. two 185 dps daggers would be about equivalent to a 220-230 dps 2h weapon. as a function of how dual wielding is balanced, the off hand damage is reduced by 50% and the miss rate for both main hand and off hand is increased by an additional 15% vs even level mobs (resulting in a 20% miss chance vs even levels). this, taken together, means 2x 185 dps daggers yield, in terms of white damage, the exact amount of damage a 220ish dps 2h, assuming equivalent amounts of other stats (ap, crit, etc.) over the extremely long term (i.e. approaching infinite). in short, DWing as a druid would be far more trouble than its worth when the only benefit to be had is the addition of a second enchant, not to mention any potential coding issues involved in making it work in the first place.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2009 6:13pm by Quor

more than that, the "dual wielding" form of the druid (cat form) already approximates dual wield attack speed by having a speed of 1.0. serves nearly the same function as having an OH in terms of how often you white attack.

I want the warrior DW staff skill instead - nothing shinier then 150 STA in BOTH hands.

Quor, thats a good point.

Wishful thinking on my part :D

Tell me about it.

"Okay, this dagger is held by the hadle, the pointy end goes in them and it gives me a great spellpower boost! Okay, got it"

"Okay, this dagger...oh wait it's a bit longer than a dagger. Oh god what do I do, hold it by the pointy part? Ow!"